stop/start

motorguy

topdaddy wrote: »

Really? Got a link?

Yup

The x6 thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4930689

To fill everyone else in, some woman asked advice about a car she was buying. Turned out it was an X6. Of course the green eyed monsters came out - our friend TopDaddy being one of the - how the x6 was !!!! because it wasnt practical and how it was a failure and how BMW knew that - even though theres been a string of copycats and BMW have just went to the trouble of building a mk2 version.

Of course TopDaddy here couldnt accept any other opinion and eventually stopped posting rather than concede he was wrong.

I think the woman just left the thread in the end.

motorguy

topdaddy wrote: »

Use the quote button to make your posts clearer

Or you could concede you're wrong. Again.

motorguy

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

NO don't fee him let him think he's right!.


but we all know he's wrong.

Even topdaddy does, but he wont admit it.

Queue tactics like

• going on the attack
• undermining people
• changing the subject
• distraction away from the point in hand

topdaddy_2

motorguy wrote: »

Yup

The x6 thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4930689

To fill everyone else in, some woman asked advice about a car she was buying. Turned out it was an X6. Of course the green eyed monsters came out - our friend TopDaddy being one of the - how the x6 was !!!! because it wasnt practical and how it was a failure and how BMW knew that - even though theres been a string of copycats and BMW have just went to the trouble of building a mk2 version.

Of course TopDaddy here couldnt accept any other opinion and eventually stopped posting rather than concede he was wrong.

I think the woman just left the thread in the end.

Its impractical and the reveiws and owners say so
But most importantly FAIL!
You reopen a thread a fortnight after it ended does not equate to "walking away from a thread". You really need that luck dont you.

topdaddy_2

motorguy wrote: »

Even topdaddy does, but he wont admit it.

Queue tactics like

• going on the attack
• undermining people
• changing the subject
• distraction away from the point in hand

Going on the attack as in undermining what you say? Guilty as charged. For example re the x6 and the alledged "greeneyed monster" I suggested a x5 as an alternative, similar in cost and from the same marque, hardly a jealous statement, more practical advice.:rotfl:

gilbert_and_sullivan

Starving the troll could be the best thing chaps, though i've now hidden his posts as well.

F1F93

topdaddy wrote: »

You started weakly and the that post went down hill from there. I refer you to post #24. Best of luck to you too next time, its surely needed.

Okay. So you've driven a few VAG cars. So you've used cars with start-stop, and still you're arguing that the heater doesn't work when off? Well then, either you're wrong, or your car's faulty. :rotfl:

Now instead of arguing with each other and descending into petty namecalling, let's try and understand each other. Topdaddy, when you said this:

topdaddy wrote: »

Heat retained by passing an air flow over the coolant?:rotfl: the heater doesnt work when the engines off;)

what exactly did you mean by the HEATER doesn't work? As in, the fan (or blower) will continue to work and blow air out, but it will not be hot, or as in the fans themselves will cut out? Or something else?

topdaddy_2

F1F93 wrote: »

Okay. So you've driven a few VAG cars. So you've used cars with start-stop, and still you're arguing that the heater doesn't work when off? Well then, either you're wrong, or your car's faulty. :rotfl:

Now instead of arguing with each other and descending into petty namecalling, let's try and understand each other. Topdaddy, when you said this:



what exactly did you mean by the HEATER doesn't work? As in, the fan (or blower) will continue to work and blow air out, but it will not be hot, or as in the fans themselves will cut out? Or something else?

Name calling where name calling is due. the heater (clues in the name) will not heat. The fans will turn(running off the battery) but the heater will not warm up(either itself or the cabin air).

F1F93

topdaddy wrote: »

Name calling where name calling is due. the heater (clues in the name) will not heat. The fans will turn(running off the battery) but the heater will not warm up(either itself or the cabin air).

I thought as much, but wanted to be clear. Well, as has been posted before, on every car I've ever driven, whether stop start or not, there is residual heat that gets blasted out for a couple of minutes even when the engine is off. In the same way that, after turning off the air con, the air remains cold for a minute or so, the fans will continue to blow out hot air if they were set to hot. Obviously it will cool down eventually, but not immediately - in the same way that a cup of tea will not cool down instantly.


The difference between "normal" cars and "stop-start" cars is that the latter will restart itself when needed to ensure the cabin stays at the correct temperature.

Which of these two do you disagree with?

topdaddy_2

F1F93 wrote: »

I thought as much, but wanted to be clear. Well, as has been posted before, on every car I've ever driven, whether stop start or not, there is residual heat that gets blasted out for a couple of minutes even when the engine is off. In the same way that, after turning off the air con, the air remains cold for a minute or so, the fans will continue to blow out hot air if they were set to hot. Obviously it will cool down eventually, but not immediately - in the same way that a cup of tea will not cool down instantly.


The difference between "normal" cars and "stop-start" cars is that the latter will restart itself when needed to ensure the cabin stays at the correct temperature.

Which of these two do you disagree with?

I disagree with the theory that the heater will blow out hot air. I believe you may have assumed that the heater is on, possibly to maximum, prior to the engine stopping. However the heater not being on and then switch off the engine and then switching on the heater(fan and temp control) will not result in a warm toasty delightful environment.