Bank scam

maas

Pace_maker wrote: »

Well done conveniently picking out what you want to see.

This is what I said:

He had heard of a way to make money for free from a friend. This friend then gave his details to a third party, this is when he suspected , I might have been played, and then cancelled his card, and was then subsequently forced to get a new card issued from the bank, and that's where the trouble started.

Anyway I'm done with these ping pong arguments its getting me nowhere, when most of you keep saying the same thing. I'll post an update in the following weeks when I've actually made some progress.

Until then bye.

Well this is the point I'm making. Your son was compliant in money laundering. He believed it was a way to make money free and passed his bank card to launderers (indirectly).

This not what you indicated at the start. But it all ends up the same place. The Police. But I can see now why you have been reluctant to go to them. I probably wouldnt go to them either!

Pace_maker

SeduLOUs wrote: »

This is the point where the police (or at the very least the bank) should have been notified.

They weren't, and your son's actions have allowed a crime to be committed, of which he played a large part.

Your only hope of getting him out of it is to tell the complete truth to the police and hope their investigations corroborate your story that his actions were only performed because he was under threat.

If you continue to do nothing and the bank report to the police it's only going to be harder to prove, and fraud markers on his file and a £2k debt will be the least of your worries.

Yes, if he had told me, at this point the guy would have been nabbed by the police. If the bank report it to the police then I'll have no choice but to comply.

SeduLOUs

Pace_maker wrote: »

Yes, if he had told me, at this point the guy would have been nabbed by the police. If the bank report it to the police then I'll have no choice but to comply.

But don't you realise that by keeping quiet and waiting for the police to come knocking on your door you're only making it 'look' worse? I find it extremely hard to believe that the bank would just let it go and they are probably already investigating internally and will inevitably report it to the police.

There are potentially far more serious consequences to this for your son than just a bad credit file.

Would you be taking the same stance of sitting and waiting if the crime he had gotten involved in involved drugs or somebody had been hurt?

DCFC79

Its not a bank scam at all is it as per the title.

Which bank was it ?

SeduLOUs

Think you might be a mule?

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101problems

so its transpiring just as i suspected its not the fear of your son being done in by the fraudsters at all its the fear of him being implicated in a fraud scam.
seriously get your son down to the station tell them the story and let them sort it out, they will have seen this before and i promise you its best you going to them than them coming to you.
innocent until proven guilty absolutely so go down and get them involved as the first question they will ask you if you dont is why you didnt amd any potential defence is severely weakened

antrobus

grumbler wrote: »

Your link doesn't prove your statement. In fact it proves the opposite:

I'm of the same opinion.

As far as perverting the course of justice is concerned; "mere inaction is insufficient", as the CPS puts it. You actually have to do something. Not reporting a crime yourself likely wouldn't do it; but persuading somebody else not to report a crime might well meet the standard.

Pace_maker

101problems wrote: »

so its transpiring just as i suspected its not the fear of your son being done in by the fraudsters at all its the fear of him being implicated in a fraud scam.
seriously get your son down to the station tell them the story and let them sort it out, they will have seen this before and i promise you its best you going to them than them coming to you.
innocent until proven guilty absolutely so go down and get them involved as the first question they will ask you if you dont is why you didnt amd any potential defence is severely weakened

Don't speak for me, I have no fear if I go to the police the criminal will be convicted. I'm weary of the repercussion, I don't want my family to live their lives looking behind them all the time with the worry of something happening. If I'm forced to I will go to the police, but as I said before I'm playing it safe until then.

I'll post an update when things have progressed.

SeduLOUs

Pace_maker wrote: »

Don't speak for me, I have no fear if I go to the police the criminal will be convicted. I'm weary of the repercussion, I don't want my family to live their lives looking behind them all the time with the worry of something happening. If I'm forced to I will go to the police, but as I said before I'm playing it safe until then.

I'll post an update when things have progressed.

Your son HAS committed a crime, albeit apparently through ignorance, but unfortunately ignorance of the law is no defence. By playing it 'safe' your are just increasing the chances of your son being the one who is convicted, and that could very well result in him going to prison.

I suspect there may be more leniency available as he is a minor, but then the question is raised as to why his legal guardian who is a responsible adult did not report the crime as soon as it was discovered if you genuinely believe your child is only a victim.

JuicyJesus

Let's look at the evidence so far. You have your son's account, which he reopened, and paid fraudulent funds into. His credentials were used. His account. His everything. Every single audit trail points to your son doing everything himself. The only thing saying your son was an unwilling accomplice is the word of your son himself. You are refusing to contact law enforcement because of lurid worst case scenarios which, if taken to their logical extreme, would mean that nobody would report crimes ever, and are in fact considering contacting everyone except law enforcement, including random people on MSE.

Now. Look at this objectively. What does it look like to you?

Call the bloody police.