Are Jaguar parts expensive?

ferry

Just curious but fancy treating myself to something cheap, a bit different and that offers a bit of luxury thrown in all for under £1500( seems about average for a 02/03 plate)
I know this might not come cheap in terms of fuel economy but have spotted a Jaguar 3.0 v6 that seems to fit the bill but know nothing about them.

Usual stuff like reliability, running costs,parts availability etc and stuff to look out for.
Seems incredibly cheap for a bit of luxury driving.

Thanks as usual

Geodark

ferry wrote: »

Just curious but fancy treating myself to something cheap, a bit different and that offers a bit of luxury thrown in all for under £1500( seems about average for a 02/03 plate)
I know this might not come cheap in terms of fuel economy but have spotted a Jaguar 3.0 v6 that seems to fit the bill but know nothing about them.

Usual stuff like reliability, running costs,parts availability etc and stuff to look out for.
Seems incredibly cheap for a bit of luxury driving.

Thanks as usual

What I was always told was that a car that cost £30k new would always have the running costs of a £30k car - regardless of what you paid for it - I found that out with an Alfa I bought! still would be tempted though for that price

tberry6686

What type of jag is it ? The x-type is (mechanically) almost identical to a Mondeo of the same era and has similar parts costs. The S Type and XJ's of that time have slightly higher parts costs but are certainly cheaper to maintain than a merc or BMW of the same age.

If it's a 3l V6 then it will be an S type or an X type. There are a few pretty good forums on the web that deal with pretty much everything that can go wrong with these cars and they are relatively simple to get parts for (Ebay is good for this). They are not the easiest cars for DIY but they aren't the worst either.

They are a cheap way into luxury motoring though, mainly because everyone thinks that older cats are money pits.

One thing though, buy on condition - mileage etc is not so important as these cars are motorway munchers.

I don't know much about the 3l V6's but both my V8's have been reliable with only minor work needed (the odd bushing and track rod ends, brake pads etc).

Try this site for a better idea of the V6 engines http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/ . Probably the best forum for cats going.

ferry

Yes it is the S-Type
Thanks for the excellent advice

forgotmyname

Test as much as you can. Although for the money non working aircon and the odd electrical gremlin maybe present. But mechanically it maybe very good.

People wont know the gremlins when looking at it.

Been tempted myself. Bu i need an estate. X type 4x4 maybe?

Ford owners sometimes buy parts from Jaguar because they are cheaper yet stamped Ford. (X-type diesel is a Mondeo under the skin).

ferry

Sorry guys just to confirm, the S-type has no interchangable parts with a Mondeo making the (slightly) more expensive option?

bigjl

I believe the S Type is based on the underpinnings of an American Ford, read it in a Jaguar magazine.

Best idea is to do the same and buy a Jaguar mag and have a read.

The 2.7d is a Citreon/Pug engine and the ZF gearbox is fitted to BMWs and Audis so is a solid piece of kit.

There are plenty of spares places the specialiss in Jags.

i am sure the mag i was reading was Jaguar World or something similar.

There are several articles on the S Type as many of the contributers to the mags drive them due to cost.

londonTiger

jaguar is not a rolls or bentley. mid to higher range bmw

Herzlos

forgotmyname wrote: »

Been tempted myself. Bu i need an estate. X type 4x4 maybe?

That's what I've got an it's great. I think it's only available in the 2.5 petrol so you only get about 20mpg urban and 30mpg extra urban. But that's for a 194bhp AWD.

Regarding spares costs for the X or S type I've no idea, I imagine the S type might be a bit rarer and has less in common with other models but I don't imagine parts are any worse than any other car. I believe Jag dealers are quite expensive in terms of hourly labour rates though.

Definitely buy on condition, and if you can get a 2005 or early 2006 model you'll also be able to save about £200 a year on tax, as in March 2006 those new bands came about making the petrol models £485/year instead of £285 (I think?).

oscarward

Definitely buy on condition and I would recommend finding a good Jaguar Indie garage, miles cheaper than a dealer and just as good. My local one is a ex Jag Master Technician.

I saw him fix an x type with a misfire for £30 by soldering some wires whereas the main dealer wanted £90 to do a diagnostic then £90 for an hours minimum to sort it + replacement parts at cost.

colino

An S Type of that age is that price for a reason. Some parts are stupidly expensive (price up a front wheel bearing - which they eat - for example) and many an old jag has been killed through a combination of terrible design and bad maintenance. The header tank is a great example, made from plastic that cannot sustain the prolonged high temperatures and pressures and leaks. (Cunningly when it is hot and running, from the tiny stub pipe that you don't notice when examining with the bonnet up). Did Jag radically improve the design? No, they moved the header tank from the bulkhead to the front of the engine bay to make it easier to change!
The Jag S (American Lincoln) is a great car when it is up and running properly, loaded with toys and very, very able on the roads, embarrassing many a boy racer with its speed and agility.
If buying, remember it is heavy so brakes, suspension and tyres(which are all over priced at the dealers) need careful checking, make sure it has a good service history, make sure all the electrics work, make sure the abs and traction control warning lights come on and go off at start up properly and the niggly things like the boot opening from the exterior button and the back reversing sensors work and tail lights don't resemble disco lights.
Great cars, but if you want to run a budget, easy and cheap to care for mid-range exec car, buy a 5 Series instead.