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KIFL & 4CR Save Motorists over £100,000 in Parking Charges

The Parking Prankster is reporting a very successful opening for the Parking Tickets Appeal Service with an estimated savings for incorrectly charged motorists of circa £100,000 in the first few months of operation.

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk

Well done you two!
Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • prosnap
    prosnap Posts: 399 Forumite
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    The question they seem to have avoided and I would have put first in their figures is ......


    How many have they paid?
    The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • prosnap wrote: »
    The question they seem to have avoided and I would have put first in their figures is ......


    How many have they paid?

    The question is irrelevant Prosnap as todate we haven't lost an appeal....... so paid nothing and have a 100% record
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,767 Forumite
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    prosnap wrote: »
    The question they seem to have avoided and I would have put first in their figures is ......


    How many have they paid?

    Perhaps one (or both) will come on to confirm. I'd be very surprised if there were (m)any!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,767 Forumite
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    Well, there you go. Excellent performance PTAS, (and good to get confirmation 4CR!).
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • prosnap
    prosnap Posts: 399 Forumite
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    The question is irrelevant Prosnap as todate we haven't lost an appeal....... so paid nothing and have a 100% record


    Hardly irrelevant!


    Most of your potential customers might feel safer trusting you if they knew the facts .... Rather than redacted facts ... :rotfl:
    The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
    Tickets: 19 [cancelled: 18, paid: 0, pending: 1]
    PPC Appeals: 8 [accepted: 2, rejected: 5, pending: 1]
    POPLA: 4 [accepted: 4, rejected: 0, pending: 0]
  • 4consumerrights
    4consumerrights Posts: 2,002 Forumite
    edited 11 July 2014 at 11:26PM
    prosnap wrote: »
    Hardly irrelevant!


    Most of your potential customers might feel safer trusting you if they knew the facts .... Rather than redacted facts ... ::


    a) The blog was written by Parking Prankster and not our company.
    b) We have not needed to pay for a parking charge et - and indeed many parking companies are now cancelling at the first stage appeal process.
    c) We haven't encountered any problem with "trust" as you put it
    due to our professional approach and explanation of the process to customers with our terms and guarantee explained.

    may be you would like to see one of our many satisfied customers report on mse:

    post: #1242

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4488337
    Thank you to this site for setting me on the right road, with templates and advice , but I was a little overwhelmed when it got to the Popla stage, so many choices of appeal, I just couldn't decide which one fitted my case.
    It was getting very close the Popla appeal deadline so I followed a link on this site to http://www.parkingticketappeals.org.uk/ and asked if they could help, yes was the answer , so I sent details of letters sent so far and my popla code and the same day they lodged my appeal.
    I waited and today received an e-mail with the magic words "The Operator should now cancel the parking charge notice forthwith."


    Reasons for the Assessor's Determination

    It is the Appellant's case that the parking charge notice was issued incorrectly.
    The Operator has not produced a copy of the parking charge notice , nor any evidence to show a breach of the conditions of parking occurred , nor any evidence that shows what the conditions of parking , in fact , were.
    Accordingly I have no option but to allow the appeal .

    Christopher Adamson
    Assessor


    Thank you again to this site and http://www.parkingticketappeals.org.uk/ (£16 well spent)for all the help and support
    Last edited by comp1; 09-07-2014 at 7:41 PM.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,767 Forumite
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    Jeez, we're all on the same side here, why the 'knocking'?

    PTAS has been above board on all of this from the outset. The service is aimed at those who regulars here would need to spend hours of hand-holding, explaining every single detail of minutiae, writing everything for them and still getting more questions, ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

    My firm belief is that PTAS has taken some weight off the shoulders of regulars, allowing us to help those who can, to a large degree, help themselves, and in the process giving PPCs a little more of a mountain to climb than was previously the case prior to both angles of attack.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • bergkamp
    bergkamp Posts: 356 Forumite
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    Savings?

    The charge is not 'owed ', so is not a debt surely?
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 12 July 2014 at 3:15AM
    Of course you have not lost a POPLA appeal, winning an appeal there is like shooting fish in a barrel, and no-one has saved any money, in fact, each of your clients is at least £16 out of pocket.

    You seem to think that a Popla win is the Holy Grail, it is not. Going to court, beating them, and counter claiming is what matters, the more they lose in court, the more the word will spread, both among the motoring public, and the Judiciary.

    Whilst I am not knocking, and no doubt your service is probably the best option for some of the saps who come here, it is in fact helping the PPCs by boosting the number of allowed appeals. It is never going to bring down a single PPC.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    edited 12 July 2014 at 7:42AM
    prosnap wrote: »
    Hardly irrelevant!


    Most of your potential customers might feel safer trusting you if they knew the facts .... Rather than redacted facts ... :rotfl:

    Apparently though there was nothing to redact.
    Je suis Charlie.
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