MSPs due to scrap council tenants' 'right to buy'

Sky_

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Trapped seems a pretty strong way of describing it.

Social renting ultimately offers the lowest costs and highest protection.

If they are "trapped" in these conditions, then there is no where else to go, bar the streets.

Plenty of other people would happily take their position. To describe these people as being trapped, you'd have to describe everyone in the rented sector as being trapped.

I very much doubt you'd be happy to suggest they get a discount to buy the landlords house.

Well said.

the_flying_pig

Graham_Devon wrote: »

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I very much doubt you'd be happy to suggest they get a discount to buy the landlords house.

course he would.

discounted RTB [your landlord's house] would provide a significant increase of social mobility for those that have bought their property. It is one way of breaking out of the rut

AndyGuil

Unfortunately the benefits culture and lack of aspiration has hurt this country. If you have nothing driving you will never achieve anything more. Being stuck in a rut is tough but if you are comfortable then you become a negative contributor. It is hard work working your way up but do so knowing you will eventually get something better. You would feel worse in that situation knowing you were paying to maintain people who had become comfortable in social housing.

Graham_Devon

CLAPTON wrote: »

indeed you are correct :

you consider it better that a family lives in a cheap property in an area of no work rather than live a useful life and set a decent example to their children by moving somewhere there is work.

Jesus. How did you get any of that from anything I said?!

You seem to have just made something up completely off the cuff and decided to tell me it's what I think.

Don't get that. :undecided

CLAPTON

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Jesus. How did you get any of that from anything I said?!

You seem to have just made something up completely off the cuff and decided to tell me it's what I think.

Don't get that. :undecided

answer the point rather than expressing your faux indignation

Sky_

I still think it's a great idea. We desperately need more social housing for vulnerable people and families (though I think the tenancies should be time-limited or conditional, so that people move when their needs change).

Maybe the odd person does get too complacent but so what! Far better than people/families ending up homeless because they can't afford private rentals.

CLAPTON

Sky_ wrote: »

I still think it's a great idea. We desperately need more social housing for vulnerable people and families (though I think the tenancies should be time-limited or conditional, so that people move when their needs change).

Maybe the odd person does get too complacent but so what! Far better than people/families ending up homeless because they can't afford private rentals.

what do you think is a great idea?

that every single family in the uK should get tax payer subsidised housing?

Graham_Devon

CLAPTON wrote: »

answer the point rather than expressing your faux indignation

Why should I answer a point you have completely fabricated?

ruggedtoast

IronWolf wrote: »

I have to wonder why it is a socialist government doing this with a so called conservative government opposing it.

For once I agree with the Scottish government, stop giving away houses on the cheap while there is a shortage.

Completely agree actually. RTB stands in complete opposition to all the standing on your own two feet carp the conservatives are always going on about.

Although they have no qualms about doling out handouts to the already rich so maybe they are trying to even things up a bit.

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Social renting ultimately offers the lowest costs and highest protection.

If they are "trapped" in these conditions, then there is no where else to go, bar the streets.

Plenty of other people would happily take their position. To describe these people as being trapped, you'd have to describe everyone in the rented sector as being trapped.

Seems to me that far too many people aspire to live in social housing. There's absolutely no stigma associated with a plan designed to hand responsibility for their housing to the taxpayer.

They should be allocated only on need and when the inhabitants no longer have those special needs they should make their own way in the big wide world.

Stopping RTB will stop the leaching of houses from the sector and, anyway, in my view if the tenants can afford to buy the house they can afford to rent in the private sector. Social housing has to be used correctly though - it's part of the safety net - not a destination.

Obviously more houses in areas where there's work would be helpful too.