MSPs due to scrap council tenants' 'right to buy'

Graham_Devon

AndyGuil wrote: »

A good history of evidence from 1980 has shown a significant increase of social mobility for those that have bought their property. It is one way of breaking out of the rut.

So nothing to do with right to buy per se then?

Considering many people will still buy houses without RTB, we can hardly wave goodbye to social mobility....can we?

the_flying_pig

AndyGuil wrote: »

A good history of evidence from 1980 has shown a significant increase of social mobility for those that have bought their property. It is one way of breaking out of the rut.

as in, what, sell something to person A that's worth [say] £100k for [say] £50k?

yep, that'd certainly increase his net worth.

by about £50k.

correspondingly reducing that of the state by a not dissimilar amount.

CLAPTON

the_flying_pig wrote: »

as in, what, sell something to person A that's worth [say] £100k for [say] £50k?

yep, that'd certainly increase his net worth.

by about £50k.

correspondingly reducing that of the state by a not dissimilar amount.

true

in exactly the same way, letting out taxpayers property at below market price is reducing the state's (taxpayer) net worth too.

AndyGuil

If they are trapped in social housing then mobility becomes an issue. Discounting need not be so high because social housing is cheaper anyway.

Sky_

AndyGuil wrote: »

If they are trapped in social housing then mobility becomes an issue.

Trapped? I'd say that anyone who has a secure, low cost, social housing tenancy is extremely lucky!

Try being trapped in the expensive and insecure private rental market, paying a huge proportion of your income on housing and on expensive forced moves, potentially moving your family every 6 months!!

AndyGuil

Sky_ wrote: »

Trapped? I'd say that anyone who has a secure, low cost, social housing tenancy is extremely lucky!

Try being trapped in the expensive and insecure private rental market, paying a huge proportion of your income on housing and on expensive forced moves, potentially moving your family every 6 months!!

The rental market does give you the aspiration to own your own home at least!

Graham_Devon

AndyGuil wrote: »

If they are trapped in social housing then mobility becomes an issue. Discounting need not be so high because social housing is cheaper anyway.

Trapped seems a pretty strong way of describing it.

Social renting ultimately offers the lowest costs and highest protection.

If they are "trapped" in these conditions, then there is no where else to go, bar the streets.

Plenty of other people would happily take their position. To describe these people as being trapped, you'd have to describe everyone in the rented sector as being trapped.

I very much doubt you'd be happy to suggest they get a discount to buy the landlords house.

AndyGuil

I'm not a fan of benefits and making people comfortable on them so this mobility is good. Aspiration is a very strong thing.

Sky_

AndyGuil wrote: »

The rental market does give you the aspiration to own your own home at least!

Yeah of course, silly me!

It must be so easy for a family, on average wages, who are paying £800+ in rent each month, plus potentially another £100+ a month to move frequently, to save a deposit for a house.

I suspect that social housing (being massively cheaper) makes that step just a little bit easier.

CLAPTON

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Trapped seems a pretty strong way of describing it.

Social renting ultimately offers the lowest costs and highest protection.

If they are "trapped" in these conditions, then there is no where else to go, bar the streets.

Plenty of other people would happily take their position. To describe these people as being trapped, you'd have to describe everyone in the rented sector as being trapped.

I very much doubt you'd be happy to suggest they get a discount to buy the landlords house.

indeed you are correct :

you consider it better that a family lives in a cheap property in an area of no work rather than live a useful life and set a decent example to their children by moving somewhere there is work.