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Cabbies Protest.

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  • Cloudydaze
    Cloudydaze Posts: 684 Forumite
    Had to laugh when I saw a cabbie being interviewed. He claimed his biggest concern was for passenger safety. It's a shame that black cabs aren't concerned about my safety when I'm a cyclist.

    The biggest danger to my life is the arrogant & aggressive driving by black cabs, not rogue mini-cab drivers using Uber!
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    Cloudydaze wrote: »
    Had to laugh when I saw a cabbie being interviewed. He claimed his biggest concern was for passenger safety. It's a shame that black cabs aren't concerned about my safety when I'm a cyclist.

    The biggest danger to my life is the arrogant & aggressive driving by black cabs, not rogue mini-cab drivers using Uber!

    It's the standard argument put forward by anyone associated with the RMT. The tube drivers are always concerned about passenger safety when they strike but strangely those concerns can be allayed by payrises - presumably paying drivers more ensures passenger safety...

    Clearly this action is not about passenger safety but about the use of meters in minicabs. Minicabs don't become more unsafe if you put a meter in them...
  • Generali
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    jay213 wrote: »
    Black cabs are too expensive, ain't it mainly tourists and people who use business expenses that use them. They want to keep there monopoly and they will if competition e.g. things like Uber are forced out.

    I hope uber is allowed to continue, nothing is fitted to the engine so the 'metering' is not the same as a black cab. A map or GPS shows a route and a cost is calculated. They'll just have to compete.

    The problem with Uber, Airbnb etc is what they are really doing is ignoring local regulations and hoping that a mix of aggression, front and deep pockets to pay for lawyers will allow the business model to continue for the 2-3 years required to allow the founders and people involved in the first couple of rounds of funding to get out with a few hundred million each.

    Effectively, Uber is circumventing the law. It may be a bad law but it is the law. Either they'll force a bad law to be changed or they'll be driven (hoho) out of business.
  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 2,187 Forumite
    movilogo wrote: »
    In London, why bother using black cabs when you have excellent tube/bus system?

    Lots of reasons. If I'm hungover, twenty miutes in a cab to work is far more pleasant at 06:30 than a tube, for example.

    And if my wife is coming back late, I'd no more suggest that she gets a bus than suggest that she hitch-hikes. There's a decently sized subset of bus passengers in the East End who are apparently incensed at the presence of an unaccompanied woman who's obviously well dressed and in a professional job.
  • Gangaweed
    Gangaweed Posts: 169 Forumite
    End of another gravy train.

    Black cabs are so insanely expensive compared to any other forms of taxi, its a wander they've lasted this long.
  • buglawton
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    Generali wrote: »
    The problem with Uber, Airbnb etc is what they are really doing is ignoring local regulations and hoping that a mix of aggression, front and deep pockets to pay for lawyers will allow the business model to continue for the 2-3 years required to allow the founders and people involved in the first couple of rounds of funding to get out with a few hundred million each.

    Effectively, Uber is circumventing the law. It may be a bad law but it is the law. Either they'll force a bad law to be changed or they'll be driven (hoho) out of business.
    There were similar objections to Ebay, Paypal when they started,
  • Generali
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    buglawton wrote: »
    There were similar objections to Ebay, Paypal when they started,

    No there weren't as Ebay wasn't circumventing any laws.
  • w211
    w211 Posts: 700 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    As far as I know there is nothing to stop a London Taxi driver driving a Uber car. Never understood why they seem to consider themselves so special and in need of protection since the introduction of Sat Nav.

    Uber are now accepting taxis on to their system. Unsurprisingly, they launched it on the day of the protest. Whoever thought that up is a marketing genius. Now Uber users now have a choice of a London taxi, or a private hire vehicle.
    Bantex wrote: »
    I believe all Uber drivers have to be licensed by TfL.

    Yes, you have to submit the necessary documents before they allow you to drive for them, as well as having licenced private hire car, licenced by TfL.
  • buglawton
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    Generali wrote: »
    No there weren't as Ebay wasn't circumventing any laws.

    Many critics claimed they were, to be proven wrong in the end.
    Airbnb is the other current example, with lobby groups scrambling to prove something illegal is going on.
    Cabwise is the cabbies version of the app - dire reviews, all it does is provide a phone number! A busy London cabby could be turning over £60k per year but they don't want to invest in proper modern technology.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    buglawton wrote: »
    Many critics claimed they were, to be proven wrong in the end.

    Rubbish. Ebay is an auction house, only one that's on the internet rather than in real life. These critics are the product of your imagination.

    Can you provide links to these critics? Proper ones rather than the rantings of mad people.
    buglawton wrote: »
    Airbnb is the other current example, with lobby groups scrambling to prove something illegal is going on.

    Airbnb is enabling people who wish to dodge zoning laws. In many countries, Australia for example, there are rules about where short term lets can be and you need PP to turn a house into a short term let.

    People are using Airbnb to allow people to use a spare room or their entire house as a short term let in contravention of these rules.

    For example:

    LA
    http://www.dailybreeze.com/business/20140321/airbnbs-short-term-rentals-break-law-in-los-angeles-says-city-memo
    New York
    http://www.newsweek.com/nyc-battling-airbnb-home-sharing-firm-got-green-light-amsterdam-249256
    The History of Illegal Subletting
    http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/why-the-house-that-airbnb-built-stands-on-shaky-legal-ground/#!ZkRro
    Sydney
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/hosts-may-lose-most-by-opening-homes-to-holidaymakers-20130913-2tqb9.html
    buglawton wrote: »
    Cabwise is the cabbies version of the app - dire reviews, all it does is provide a phone number! A busy London cabby could be turning over £60k per year but they don't want to invest in proper modern technology.

    Black cabs can earn that sort of money as things stand if they put the hours in because of the rent seeking they are permitted to engage in.
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