Can anyone tell me what this plant is please.

sb44

My MIL asked a friend to trim her weeping willow a couple or so years ago.

She took too much off the top and ended up with a stump, from which this lot has grown!

She did manage to root the top half so has a small w/willow in a large pot.

As the plant above looks nothing like the original, I thought the w/willow had been grafted onto something else.

Does anyone know what this plant is please?

The stems are about 4' tall (after being trimmed by her) and are very straight, lots of them from the one stump.

Ta.

Ectophile

Are you sure it's not just a weeping willow that hasn't got big enough for the stems to "weep" yet?

The leaves look right for a weeping willow.

jap200

The leaves look exactly like the weeping willow leaves in my garden, just growing up rather than hanging down. I suspect that the weeping habit doesn't start until a certain height is reached. Although in this case the tree has been coppiced (main trunk cut) so that lots of small trunks have grown up from the base. So basically it is still a willow.

sb44

It is just that the leaves on the one that was cut down ie the top of this, are a totally different shape to these, they are wide and short.

Hopefully this is still a weeping willow as I took some cuttings a couple of months ago which have rooted.

Does anyone have a photo of theirs showing the stems 'weeping'?

Ta.

Davesnave

You are right about the grafting.

Your MiL had (past tense!) a Kilmarnock Willow:

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/74544/Salix-caprea-Kilmarnock-%28m%29/Details

It was cut off below the graft, so now she has whatever willow the rootstock is. Looking at the habit, it probably won't be a weeping variety.

Kilmarnock willows stay small. It looks as if this willow is pretty vigorous. If it's anywhere near the house or the drains, you know what should happen next......!

sb44

Davesnave wrote: »

You are right about the grafting.

Your MiL had (past tense!) a Kilmarnock Willow:

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/74544/Salix-caprea-Kilmarnock-%28m%29/Details

It was cut off below the graft, so now she has whatever willow the rootstock is. Looking at the habit, it probably won't be a weeping variety.

Kilmarnock willows stay small. It looks as if this willow is pretty vigorous. If it's anywhere near the house or the drains, you know what should happen next......!

It is about 15' from the house but about 30' from the nearest pipes.

I got confuses it seems the kilmarnock had some kind of fungus so that is why the top was lopped off to try and get rid of it. She bought another one which is in the large pot.

I was searching and found that someone said their kilmarnock trees were grafted onto 18" standard Thelma. Can't find it now and have searched for Thelma but can't find anything re plants/shrubs. Does anyone know what a Thelma tree is?

Ta.

malebolge

It's probably something like goat willow (p ussy willow), an ordinary willow type of tree. The Latin name for willow is Salix and there are a few common types that are long lived & sturdy - the qualities needed for rootstock of grafted plants. You can keep them trimmed & bushy, but left to their own devices they can grow over 30 feet high. The point about roots & drains would apply...
(As a side note, I've never heard of a Thelma either, so I had a quick google. It's mentioned on the BBC site, but other than that, I did learn that Thelma Willow is on both twitter and facebook. Made me smile. )

Davesnave

sb44 wrote: »

I was searching and found that someone said their kilmarnock trees were grafted onto 18" standard Thelma. Can't find it now and have searched for Thelma but can't find anything re plants/shrubs. Does anyone know what a Thelma tree is?

Ta.

:rotfl: I think you have been reading Radio Lancashire's Bill Blackledge's Q & A on willows:

Thelma Taylor asks...

I have just purchased a Kilmarnock willow quarter standard. It is about 18 inches high. How tall will it grow and does it like sun?
Bill replies...

Your Kilmarnock Willow (Salix Caprea) will have been grafted onto an eighteen inch high standard, Thelma, and basically that is the height to which it will grow. It can be grown either in a container or planted in the garden and will tolerate a sunny position. If you do plant the Willow in a container you would be far better using a soil base compost such as John Innes No 2/3.


The head is normally salix caprea and the rootstock probably salix discolor ( p u s s y (stupid filter!:mad:) willow.)

sb44

Davesnave wrote: »

:rotfl: I think you have been reading Radio Lancashire's Bill Blackledge's Q & A on willows:

Thelma Taylor asks...

I have just purchased a Kilmarnock willow quarter standard. It is about 18 inches high. How tall will it grow and does it like sun?
Bill replies...

Your Kilmarnock Willow (Salix Caprea) will have been grafted onto an eighteen inch high standard, Thelma, and basically that is the height to which it will grow. It can be grown either in a container or planted in the garden and will tolerate a sunny position. If you do plant the Willow in a container you would be far better using a soil base compost such as John Innes No 2/3.


The head is normally salix caprea and the rootstock probably salix discolor ( p u s s y (stupid filter!:mad:) willow.)

Doh!

Yep, that is where I saw it.

:rotfl:

I'm not surprised I couldn't bl**dy find a tree called Thelma.



I took some cuttings which have taken so I may keep them and use them in pots around the garden within other plants to fill out the garden.

Ta.

sb44

Just searched for P u ssy Willow and the leaves don't look the same to me.

They are very long and thin and the stems are very straight up to about 3' and then start to bend slightly.

Davesnave

You're right, those leaves aren't like p u s s y willow. They're more like white willow or one of the other narrow leaved varieties, which can be either upright growing or drooping.