Keeping bank accounts safe from "Zeus" Trojan attacks

Blackpool_Saver

a huge download came down from my AV the other day let's hope it's for this pending attack. But, yes, as previously stated these risks are always present. I don't let it worry me, it's a matter of weighing up convenience against POTENTIAL risk and not getting overly worried about it.

roxy28

thenudeone wrote: »

The most dangerous browser for an XP now is Internet Explorer, because Microsoft won't issue any more updates.

As long as you don't use IE, and have up to date virus and firewall installed, you should be pretty safe even on an XP PC.

What about the Windows system patches , XP is now left out and that must make it even more vunerable than it already was?

Eco_Miser

No, XP remains no more, and no less, vulnerable than it was already.
A patched system may become less vulnerable, or just differently vulnerable.

Vortigern

jack_pott wrote: »

A few years ago when I didn't have my own computer I used to use the ones in the library.

I would be very wary of using a library* PC for online banking.

Even if you know how to delete cookies, your browsing history and stored passwords; you can't be sure that there isn't a keylogger already on the library PC.

*applies equally to internet cafes and any publicly accessible PC

dryhat

Bitcoin users unaffected.

lejog2003

roxy28 wrote: »

What about the Windows system patches , XP is now left out and that must make it even more vunerable than it already was?

It is probable that I shouldn't be mentioning this here, but details of a simple 1 line registry change that allow XP users to continue receiving updates from Microsoft (presumably the ones the government are paying £5.5m for) are widely available on t'internet.

lejog2003

Vortigern wrote: »

I would be very wary of using a library* PC for online banking.

Even if you know how to delete cookies, your browsing history and stored passwords; you can't be sure that there isn't a keylogger already on the library PC.

*applies equally to internet cafes and any publicly accessible PC

The PCs in my local library are impressively managed by my local council and pretty safe from any hacking software, although very limited to the software you can run.

I did once use an internet cafe where simply opening task manager showed two well known keystroke loggers running. I printed out the evidence, took it to my local police station and they were raided and closed down the next day.

MarkFromCornwall

lejog2003 wrote: »

I did once use an internet cafe where simply opening task manager showed two well known keystroke loggers running. I printed out the evidence, took it to my local police station and they were raided and closed down the next day.

I know how to use task manager. Would a keylogger show in the Applications list or would I have to look in the list of processes and if so what should I look for?

Happychappy

lejog2003 wrote: »

The PCs in my local library are impressively managed by my local council and pretty safe from any hacking software, although very limited to the software you can run.

I did once use an internet cafe where simply opening task manager showed two well known keystroke loggers running. I printed out the evidence, took it to my local police station and they were raided and closed down the next day.

Wow, you got the Police within a matter of hours to raid a cafe because you said there was something possibly naughty or dare say illegal running on their computers ! :cool:

You wouldn't get them to raid anything raid anything around here or get them out their cars, well maybe for donuts and even then they would send out the cheaper version to collect them, well done :T

lejog2003

MarkFromMullion wrote: »

I know how to use task manager. Would a keylogger show in the Applications list or would I have to look in the list of processes and if so what should I look for?

Mmmm its not easy to give this advice, at the time I was using key loggers (perfectly legitimately!) at work, so I knew a little about them, However in this case since they were perfectly standard products downloaded by the cafe owner, they appeared as processes with the name of the product in the description and (a real giveaway this) a small icon in the taskbar. Of course anyone a little more IT savvy could have disguised them a lot more effectively and no doubt hackers do even hacking into the operating system.

If you are using a public computer it is worth checking the task manager and installed programmes list in Control Panel for anything unusual. Also for anything unusual on the keyboard which might indicate a hardware keylogger (a second wire used to be a giveaway, wireless may make hardware key loggers more difficult to spot).

But my point is that you are much safer using computers in public libraries which are run by the local council IT department, experienced in running networks of 100s or 1000s of computers compared with Internet cafes which could be set up by any Tom, !!!!!! or Harry (or petty criminal).