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Formal Demand - Help please

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  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
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    So this is after a windscreen ticket, but is the first NTK you received. So as Redx says too, send appeal as is. Remember you are appealing as the keeper not as the driver. This is a member of the BPA, so replace ATA with BPA as it belongs to that organisation.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,027 Forumite
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    A quick search of this forum for 'Armtrac Formal Demand' would have found other threads about it, like this:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4986599

    ...suggests to me that Armtrac don't seem to have a Notice to Keeper in their repertoire of template letters and they cannot count up to 56 days. That's a good thing for a registered keeper at POPLA appeal stage!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • I have now received a letter back from them stating that in order for them to treat it as an appeal they need the driver details. I don't think this is correct is it?

    They've sent a whole load of bumf with pics and replying to the letter as well... It's like a book!!!

    Well... This looks like it might take a while!!
  • Redx
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    a clear breach of the BPA CoP , so report them to the BPA and enclose copies of the documents so far (post #6 of the newbies thread)
  • Which part of the CoP does this breach? This is all becoming rather confusing!
  • Redx
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    edited 20 July 2014 at 3:30PM
    Which part of the CoP does this breach? This is all becoming rather confusing!

    the newsletter issued over 6 months ago, blogged about by parking prankster and quoted dozens of times on this forum this year since the BPA CoP was altered

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5009293

    are you sure there is no popla code ?
  • There was no POPLA code, but they're saying they're not treating it as an appeal as I've not filled out the driver details section on the PCN.

    Can I still get a code from them?
  • Redx
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    yes we know what they are saying as you have already mentioned it, doesnt make it correct though , does it

    please follow the previous advice, complain to the BPA about the breach of their CoP , the request for driver details and the lack of a popla code

    stop going round in circles and seek the help of the higher power in this matter, the BPA

    tonight
  • Coupon-mad
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    Which part of the CoP does this breach? This is all becoming rather confusing!
    No it's not. They needed to send you a POPLA code when rejecting an appeal (from keeper OR driver). They didn't. That's a breach of the CoP.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
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    If you haven't already done so, you need to reply back to the PPC and say you have appealed as registered keeper, you have nothing to add to your appeal and that they should reply with either a cancellation of PCN or a POPLA code.

    At the same time you should email a complaint to the BPA for the reasons exactly as REdx has stated. This will be back up for you if the PPC get awkward.

    You are running out of time so so this ASAP.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
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