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DMP & Mutual Support Thread - Part 10

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  • Sazzie23
    Sazzie23 Posts: 2,634 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Post of the Month
    Had a lovely letter from Barclaycard this weekend telling me that I was right in my belief I had PPI in my three credit cards from way back when and that they will most certainly look into whether they were missold, as was my assertion due to never needing such protection and never actually discussing it with anyone when applying for the cards. I hope they find in my favour and give me a little bit back to make a dent in what I owe. That would be lovely!

    That will definitely help the balance 'going down'. Good news Meatloaf.
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • Sazzie23
    Sazzie23 Posts: 2,634 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Post of the Month
    Someone reminded me of this post from January.

    Hope it helps - it's a bit long.

    ^^^^^^^

    Morning all

    Newbie message

    I know there is a lot of activity on the thread at the moment, many newbies who are posting, and quite a few lurkers at a guess (that's ok, we don't mind, one day you'll feel up to posting and smile about how worried you were).

    I agree with what's been posted already busy the regulars, and I think all the queries have been answered.

    So general Newbie Advice, setting up and starting out is probably to most difficult time you will face in your DMP, so don't panic if it all seems scary and too much . Facing up to the fact you can no longer pay your debts is a massive step and very confronting for many people, this is life changing stuff so worrying is absolutely normal.

    Now you've done the horrid thing of adding it all up (often a shock) you've worked out (with SC or whoever) how much you can pay back, that's the crucial bit done, just a matter of getting the paperwork sorted.

    Despite SC being the largest debt charity, some call centre people know nothing about them, that's ok, they are just ignorant, don't let it worry you.
    All debt collection sections know about SC, some are better equipped to deal with it than others. Often the people at the front end that you speak to know nothing about how the system works, remember you do, you are better equipped than them, don't let them scare you.

    It doesn't matter if you choose to DIY DMP or SC, the plan is the same, you are paying them what you can afford and they can't have anything else. They 'reject' the plan, tough luck, keep paying it just the same, they'll get with the programme at some point.

    Some creditors will let you know they have accepted, some will just accept it and show something on the statement, some will not say anything but just stop or reduce your interest, HBOS and BC will probably still charge you interest in some form, don't panic over it, it extends your DFD but there are things you can do, start on page 1 of the thread when you have a spare few hours and then decide what to do.

    Overtime and non regular bonus payments, no you don't have to declare these, and you can choose to save them to your emergency fund, make some extra repayments to reduce your DFD, save up for F&f payments when you get enough, or even....shhhh ...spend them on a little treat but don't tell anyone. Most people go for a combination of the above, all depends on your priorities.

    When you start out and your DFD is generally 4-10 years away, you think, I want to pay as much as I can straight away so the creditors think I'm doing my best. Actually I don't think they care much, as long as you keep in touch and keep paying what you agree - so don't cut your budget so fine that you are having 4 years of hell instead of 6 years in moderate comfort. I'm not saying do your shopping at M&S, and have 4 holidays a year, but just leave yourself the option of buying a cake at birthday time, a new pair of shoes for DD and maybe a very cheap caravan break once a year.

    Default letters are good, they look scary but they mean the creditor is actually looking at what you pay and putting your account into limbo. If your account goes to a DcA this is usually good and they are mainly not the scary people you see on the Tv, they have all been very reasonable, and just want you to keep in touch and keep paying.

    There will be wobble times, if you have to reduce a payment, when a creditor starts grumbling or just because DFD seems a long way off, but we've all done it, you come here log on and we'll all get throu it together.

    If you are having trouble with creditors, eg Lloyds troubles BDF, when they shift to a DcA I'd continue to pay, the payments seem to get to where they should eventually, but if you are worried, send a recorded delivery letter to the collections team at the creditor, quoting your account number and SC ref and saying this is what is happening, these are the payments that have been made, please make your sure your accounts are up to date and let ask them to reply to you in writing so you have confirmation. It does take several months for an account to get over from creditor to DcA and often the information is limited but it's just like the original set up and the DcA will let you know to change the payments in SC, and you can just log in and do it.

    I hope this helps, there are lots of scenarios I haven't covered, but in the main it's grit your teeth, keep plodding through and it will all settle down.

    One day soon, you will be able to say like Ellie I will be debt free next year
    Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
    Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T

    Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years

    DMP support no438.
  • Triangle
    Triangle Posts: 1,044 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Sazie thank you so much for the above post, found it very helpful :)

    Things are all set in motion for me - all paperwork sent, token letters sent etc. DMP starts in September and my estimated debt free date is May 2024 :eek: But this WILL go down. Especially in two years time when we will be saving at least £200/month on childcare!

    Need to trawl back on here and find a member number - also, does anyone here do a DFW diary?

    Take care
    Tx
    MFW!
    Started 1/12/22 - £196,000

    Saving targets 2023
    Mortgage Overpayment £0/£2000
    Bathroom £0/£2000
    Big Birthday Trip £0/£2000
    Long Term Saving Pot £0/£2000
  • Triangle
    Triangle Posts: 1,044 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    I have found the member list :T
    If it's OK with everyone I will be number 435 :)

    Thanks Growurown for finding the list

    Tx
    Growurown wrote: »
    This is the last post I can find with the list. As ianmak doesn't post much now, do you want to be number 435?


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  • Dandytf
    Dandytf Posts: 5,073 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Please add me Dandytf, thanks
    Replenished CRA Reports.2020 Nissan Leaf 128-149 miles top charge. Savings depleted. VM Stream tv M250 Volted to M350 then M500 since returned to 1gb
  • Riorio
    Riorio Posts: 5 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary
    Hi everyone!

    Quick question, sorry if it's been asked, but just need to clarify something....

    I've sent back my signed forms to step change to agree to enter into the DMP. They haven't replied yet....sent on Friday. Is my next step to move everything to my new bank account and cancely direct debits to my creditors and just pay £1 token payment from June's payments? Advising them im in a DMP with step change?

    Thanks :j
  • Growurown
    Growurown Posts: 5,498 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    Triangle wrote: »
    I have found the member list :T
    If it's OK with everyone I will be number 435 :)

    Thanks Growurown for finding the list

    Tx
    Dandytf wrote: »
    Please add me Dandytf, thanks

    And we are off!

    Triangle - 435
    Dandytf - 436

    Great post Sazzie - I vote this in for starting off part 11.
    DMP Mutual Support Thread No. 421

    Debt free date 25/11/2015 - Made It!
  • KID77
    KID77 Posts: 221 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Can I have 437 please? Thank you x
    DMP Number 437
    LBM May 2015 47k in debt
    Starting DMP 1st July 2015
  • kb_soma
    kb_soma Posts: 270 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary Name Dropper Combo Breaker Debt-free and Proud!
    Sazzie23 wrote: »
    Someone reminded me of this post from January.

    Hope it helps - it's a bit long.

    ^^^^^^^

    Morning all

    Newbie message

    I know there is a lot of activity on the thread at the moment, many newbies who are posting, and quite a few lurkers at a guess (that's ok, we don't mind, one day you'll feel up to posting and smile about how worried you were).

    I agree with what's been posted already busy the regulars, and I think all the queries have been answered.

    So general Newbie Advice, setting up and starting out is probably to most difficult time you will face in your DMP, so don't panic if it all seems scary and too much . Facing up to the fact you can no longer pay your debts is a massive step and very confronting for many people, this is life changing stuff so worrying is absolutely normal.

    Now you've done the horrid thing of adding it all up (often a shock) you've worked out (with SC or whoever) how much you can pay back, that's the crucial bit done, just a matter of getting the paperwork sorted.

    Despite SC being the largest debt charity, some call centre people know nothing about them, that's ok, they are just ignorant, don't let it worry you.
    All debt collection sections know about SC, some are better equipped to deal with it than others. Often the people at the front end that you speak to know nothing about how the system works, remember you do, you are better equipped than them, don't let them scare you.

    It doesn't matter if you choose to DIY DMP or SC, the plan is the same, you are paying them what you can afford and they can't have anything else. They 'reject' the plan, tough luck, keep paying it just the same, they'll get with the programme at some point.

    Some creditors will let you know they have accepted, some will just accept it and show something on the statement, some will not say anything but just stop or reduce your interest, HBOS and BC will probably still charge you interest in some form, don't panic over it, it extends your DFD but there are things you can do, start on page 1 of the thread when you have a spare few hours and then decide what to do.

    Overtime and non regular bonus payments, no you don't have to declare these, and you can choose to save them to your emergency fund, make some extra repayments to reduce your DFD, save up for F&f payments when you get enough, or even....shhhh ...spend them on a little treat but don't tell anyone. Most people go for a combination of the above, all depends on your priorities.

    When you start out and your DFD is generally 4-10 years away, you think, I want to pay as much as I can straight away so the creditors think I'm doing my best. Actually I don't think they care much, as long as you keep in touch and keep paying what you agree - so don't cut your budget so fine that you are having 4 years of hell instead of 6 years in moderate comfort. I'm not saying do your shopping at M&S, and have 4 holidays a year, but just leave yourself the option of buying a cake at birthday time, a new pair of shoes for DD and maybe a very cheap caravan break once a year.

    Default letters are good, they look scary but they mean the creditor is actually looking at what you pay and putting your account into limbo. If your account goes to a DcA this is usually good and they are mainly not the scary people you see on the Tv, they have all been very reasonable, and just want you to keep in touch and keep paying.

    There will be wobble times, if you have to reduce a payment, when a creditor starts grumbling or just because DFD seems a long way off, but we've all done it, you come here log on and we'll all get throu it together.

    If you are having trouble with creditors, eg Lloyds troubles BDF, when they shift to a DcA I'd continue to pay, the payments seem to get to where they should eventually, but if you are worried, send a recorded delivery letter to the collections team at the creditor, quoting your account number and SC ref and saying this is what is happening, these are the payments that have been made, please make your sure your accounts are up to date and let ask them to reply to you in writing so you have confirmation. It does take several months for an account to get over from creditor to DcA and often the information is limited but it's just like the original set up and the DcA will let you know to change the payments in SC, and you can just log in and do it.

    I hope this helps, there are lots of scenarios I haven't covered, but in the main it's grit your teeth, keep plodding through and it will all settle down.

    One day soon, you will be able to say like Ellie I will be debt free next year

    Great post Sazzie23, I wish I had this advice when I started off on my journey.

    Encouraging words to read even now. Xx
    LBM: NOVEMBER 2011 || debt free date:30/06/15 || The Fighting Debt Army: #442 || Frugal Living Challenge 2018 || January 2018 Grocery £1.22/£100 ||
  • kb_soma
    kb_soma Posts: 270 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary Name Dropper Combo Breaker Debt-free and Proud!
    Riorio wrote: »
    Hi everyone!

    Quick question, sorry if it's been asked, but just need to clarify something....

    I've sent back my signed forms to step change to agree to enter into the DMP. They haven't replied yet....sent on Friday. Is my next step to move everything to my new bank account and cancely direct debits to my creditors and just pay £1 token payment from June's payments? Advising them im in a DMP with step change?

    Thanks :j
    Ho riorio, yes I did this. I think mine was token payments and a letter to the creditors, you can find template letters online. I cancelled my direct debit and moved all spare cash into my new bank account.

    Others can also advise. Well done for contacting sc and good luck. Xxx
    LBM: NOVEMBER 2011 || debt free date:30/06/15 || The Fighting Debt Army: #442 || Frugal Living Challenge 2018 || January 2018 Grocery £1.22/£100 ||
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