We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Fence dispute

Hi,
In the winter our jointly owned fence blew down. We were not living in the property at the time as it is going though repossession (almost there now). As we owned it at the time of the damage I guess we are legally obliged to pay for half the repair. The neighbour went ahead and got it fixed with out showing me the quotes first and then asked for half the money. He threatened legal action if we did not pay. I then asked to see the quotes and he then change the amount that he first asked. We are unhappy with they way he has gone about things but accept that we have to pay. We cannot afford to pay in one lump sum so I sent part payment. He will not accept this and come back with he is not in a position to offer us an interest free loan ( we did not ask for one) but he is happy to take items from the house in way of payment. Even if I agreed with this, which I don't, we don't even have the keys - the bank does. He is threatening legal action again. I have gone back with the best we can do which is to pay over 5 months the amount. It is all we can afford. Can he take legal action? Where do we stand?
Any advice much appreciated.
«1

Comments

  • pimento
    pimento Posts: 6,243 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    No agreement in advance? Hm. I doubt he has a hope in hell of getting any money. tell him to send the bill to the bank.
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
  • Vectis
    Vectis Posts: 776 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    A jointly owned fence?

    I'd first be looking at whose boundary it is and whose fence the land is on.

    Is there a legal agreement between you and your neighbour for maintaining and replacing the fence?

    Are you still required to maintain the property or is it now up to the mortgage company?
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    pimento wrote: »
    No agreement in advance?

    The whole point of a jointly owned fence is that both owners have to agree to changes - not that one can make changes and then invoice the other.

    If he didn't discuss it with you in advance and get your agreement, he can whistle for his money.
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    So the property is being re-possessed by the mortgage lender? Looks like it will be their problem soon...
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • Clive_Woody
    Clive_Woody Posts: 5,943 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    He has very little chance of successful legal action. He should have approached you in advance of the work being done and both parties should have agreed to costs. His mistake, he pays.
    "We act as though comfort and luxury are the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about” – Albert Einstein
  • uk_messer
    uk_messer Posts: 224 Forumite
    I understood that no one was legally required to repair their fence unless those residing had pets.
  • force_ten
    force_ten Posts: 1,931 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    tell him you will see him in court

    he has gone about it all wrong and will have no chance of getting a ruling in his favour

    if he wanted you to pay half he should have come to you with the quotes and agreed to the payment split before going ahead with the work, the fact that he dropped the price when you asked to see the quotes shows that he is trying it on

    if you still want to pay which i wouldnt then ask to see the final invoice before you pay a single penny, if he want show you the invoice then do not pay anything
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    A good point raised earlier about a joint responsibility fence???
    I doubt it.
    And as said above, if he didn't ask 1st he can't now insist on his figures, BUT, no way do I agree with the comments of making him whistle for the money.

    The OP seemed to agree in principle to footing 1/2 the bill? so why would they now expect not to pay unless they are in dispute over actual responsibility, which they don't seem to be.

    Me?, I would get quotes for the work, go with the lowest and pay him 1/2 that.
    It's fair and in the name of good neighbourly relations, although I fear yet agin it may have gone past that stage.:(:(
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • missprice
    missprice Posts: 3,736 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    flamm wrote: »
    We were not living in the property at the time as it is going though repossession (almost there now).
    It's fair and in the name of good neighbourly relations, although I fear yet agin it may have gone past that stage.:(:(

    The house is being reposessed, no neighborly relations to keep up.
    63 mortgage payments to go.

    Zero wins 2016 😥
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    edited 4 June 2014 at 7:59AM
    missprice wrote: »
    The house is being reposessed, no neighborly relations to keep up.


    I did possibly misread this, I didn't see the bit about the bank having the keys and assumed (wrongly that the OP was "repo-ing " it back from bad tenants or similar. I couldn't/can't see why anyone losing their home would be concerned with a fence issue.

    The advice still stands though for anyone in a less dire situation.

    The house is now the banks, they surely have the liability as you didn't authorise repairs, let them sort out if it actually is shared, either way I doubt your"ex" neighbour will get much joy from them which is probably why they are trying bully tactics with the OP?
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.