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mrginge

Annie1960 wrote: »

Similar to what I was told by EA and solicitor.

If it is built in, the EA will list it on the particulars, and it is included in the price.
If free standing, they put 'space for fridge' etc, and vendor takes it (or can offer it for sale to buyer.

Same with carpets. If they are listed on the EA's particulars, this means they are included in the price the buyer offers. If they are not listed, then not included.

Otherwise, the buyer could offer a certain price, then find things like carpets, fireplaces, fitted kitchen etc all taken away when they move in.

The disclaimers often seen on EA's details are meaningless.

Well this is a load of bobbins.

PenguinJim

Some great stories in this thread.

We had something of the opposite problem when we moved in three years ago. Lots of furnishings were provided: cheap, uncomfortable sofa; a cheap, small bed; a heavy, ugly glass coffee table; a large, heavy, ugly dining room table; and pink ceramics in one of the bathrooms. Fortunately, they took the water heater (or the old one was broken? Anyway, the place was sold without one) so we were able to choose a good, efficient one suitable for our needs.

But the rest of the stuff... the problem is, we're both good MSE people, and you have to pry our wallets open. Everything was sort of "good enough". I've seen much nicer, more comfortable sofas that are the perfect size... but we already have a sofa that is "good enough". Why spend money on a more appropriate coffee table when there's one right there that's "good enough"? We finally got a new bed a few months ago, and it's wonderful and brilliant and HUGE, but I can easily see us moving out in four or five years and all the other stuff will still be there.

So if your sellers are taking things with them, what they're actually doing is giving. Giving you opportunities!

MobileSaver

Annie1960 wrote: »

If it is built in, the EA will list it on the particulars, and it is included in the price. Otherwise, the buyer could offer a certain price, then find things like carpets, fireplaces, fitted kitchen etc all taken away when they move in.

This was totally wrong when you posted it a few days ago and is still totally wrong.

Unless you have specific written replies to the contrary from the seller's solicitor, you are buying only what is listed as included on the "Fittings and Contents Form."

Please stop posting incorrect advice that could cost a buyer dearly if they rely on it. The only good advice you gave was the OP should check with their own solicitor as they'll then be told how wrong your other advice was.

Gustav1982

Thought that was the case that Fixtures/Fittings was main contract
We offered the appliance at a low price to give buyer an option (we dont know if our seller will leave anything yet) but buyer demanding it be included now as was in EA description and they backing him up slightly (i guess save a little face perhaps)

flimf

Completely forgot about this post! Still waiting to hear on laminate gate. We're heading to a flooring shop later, so we may be wooed by some fancy shmancy flooring instead

jjlandlord

MobileSaver wrote: »

Unless you have specific written replies to the contrary from the seller's solicitor, you are buying only what is listed as included on the "Fittings and Contents Form."

Fixtures are assumed to be included unless specifically excluded.
This includes kitchen units, light switches, radiators, etc.

A built-in appliances might be considered a fixture, since it is not free standing.

On the other hands it is assumed that fittings will be removed. This includes carpets.

Of course it is best to clarify it all.
That's why the "Fixtures and Fittings Form' specifically asks if specific items are 'included' or 'excluded', and if they are 'fitted' or 'freestanding'.