Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

The rise of Extremism in Economically tough times

14446484950

Comments

  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Sadly, some posters are too dumb to realize they are racist.
    Many racists are quite bright as well.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Bantex wrote: »
    Many racists are quite bright as well.

    That's a contradiction. By definition you are dumb if you are a racist.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    That's a contradiction. By definition you are dumb if you are a racist.
    No connection.
    Winston Churchill was not dumb, many rather nasty despots were not dumb. There is no direct correlation.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Sadly, some posters are too dumb to realize they are racist.

    there was an interesting post by some-one that used USA as an example of country benefitting from immigration

    the brief facts were:-
    immigrants arrived and
    -cheated, defrauded the locals
    -then basically committed genocide on the original inhabitants
    -destroyed much of the flora and fauna
    -introduced one of the largest slave economies in modern times
    -had a civil war that killed millions
    -once slavery had been abolished they became probably the most racially divided society in the world
    -even today the US id still probably the most racially divided 'western country'



    would that original poster be an example of some-one too dumb too realise they were racist?
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Bit like Generali going on about how wonderfully multicultural Australia is. I think some of the earlier (pre European) inhabitants may have reservations.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Conrad wrote: »
    Furthermore many of us do not want ever more roads, congestion, building and intensive farming. Sure there are plenty of fields but already far too much impact from mankind with roads criss crossing the land. GDP at all costs is not for me and we can perfectly well manage with the population size we now have, it just takes a bit of imaginative policy on pension planning.

    If we all had that attitude mankind still be living in caves.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    edited 2 June 2014 at 4:01PM
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    there was an interesting post by some-one that used USA as an example of country benefitting from immigration

    the brief facts were:-
    immigrants arrived and
    -cheated, defrauded the locals
    -then basically committed genocide on the original inhabitants
    -destroyed much of the flora and fauna
    -introduced one of the largest slave economies in modern times
    -had a civil war that killed millions
    -once slavery had been abolished they became probably the most racially divided society in the world
    -even today the US id still probably the most racially divided 'western country'



    would that original poster be an example of some-one too dumb too realise they were racist?

    All that is terrible.

    However, I'm not understanding your point. Are you arguing that the USA's economy today would be better with a population of 3 million than a population of 343 million?

    If the British hadn't colonized the US do you think the native Indians would have had to have had an immigration policy eventually?
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    All that is terrible.

    However, I have no idea why you would think an economy today is better with a population of 3 million than a population of 343 million though.

    Did you miss the point?

    I think the point was that for the original population, things became infinitely worse. Most of them were murdered or treated as slaves.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    edited 2 June 2014 at 4:06PM
    Bantex wrote: »
    I think the point was that for the original population, things became infinitely worse. Most of them were murdered or treated as slaves.

    Most of the ones that died - died from coming into contact with Western diseases. That is a tragedy. It's not an argument against immigration in today's USA.

    By the way Native Americans struggle with this even today
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Most of the ones that died - died from coming into contact with Western diseases. That is a tragedy. It's not an argument against immigration in today's USA.
    and the decendents of those that did survive are still treated like !!!!!!.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.9K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.2K Life & Family
  • 258.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.