The rise of Extremism in Economically tough times

vivatifosi

Interesting sofa chat from yesterday's Andrew Marr show, featuring Trevor Phillips, Nigel Farage, Anna Soubury and Andrew Marr:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti7bBORQ25Q

BillJones

burnleymik wrote: »

not really heavily linked to the tough economic climate we are currently experiencing.

But we are not experiencing a tough economic climate. We are in the middle of an economic boom, with growth roaring ahead, in an economy that was already one of the word's richest.

antrobus

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Many of those 600 million would beg to differ. Just like the West there's vast disparity.....

Beg to differ as to what? It remains a simple fact; "China lifted more than 600 million people out of poverty between 1981 and 2004".

Source, World Bank
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2010/03/19/results-profile-china-poverty-reduction

Thrugelmir wrote: »

...Maybe the largest economy but has many flaws.

The phrase "has many flaws" could be applied to anything that humanity has created.

Seabee42

setmefree2 wrote: »

So said Melthus in 1798 - how wrong was he?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus

He was wrong because he did not allow for the effects of fossil fuels. We shall see.

Generali

Seabee42 wrote: »

He was wrong because he did not allow for the effects of fossil fuels. We shall see.

Fossil fuels weren't used extensively in British farming until the 1940s.

At least as important was the understanding of nitrogen fixing plants which removed the requirement for land to remain farrow and enabled animals to be kept over winter. Selective breeding has also increased yields vastly.

Malthus was wrong because he didn't understand the massive growth in human ingenuity that was going on around him. He made the classic intellectual mistake of believing that things would stay as they are.

prowla

Nothing to worry about here; UKIP aren't extremists and the economy is in growth.

Conrad

Commonwealth migration was well managed and thus the working class did not have to endure the indignity of working for halve price.


Furthermore many of us do not want ever more roads, congestion, building and intensive farming. Sure there are plenty of fields but already far too much impact from mankind with roads criss crossing the land. GDP at all costs is not for me and we can perfectly well manage with the population size we now have, it just takes a bit of imaginative policy on pension planning.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

Malthus was wrong because he didn't understand the massive growth in human ingenuity that was going on around him. He made the classic intellectual mistake of believing that things would stay as they are.

yes Malthus was wrong: it's amazing that even today people can't envisage progress over the next 30 years that will enable wealth, health and happiness without 20-40 million increase in UK population

antrobus

Conrad wrote: »

Commonwealth migration was well managed ......

Enoch Powell thought different. For one.:)

setmefree2

Generali wrote: »

I agree with this but presumably if you hold racist views, e.g. not wanting to be around foreigners, then it's reasonable to be called a racist.

Sadly, some posters are too dumb to realize they are racist.