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Private parking mild overpayment...

Hi guys,


I paid my private parking charge notice to the lovely people at MET.
They demanded payment of £100 reduced to £50 if paid within 14 days.


I decided that I would pay the fine plus a tip, £50.01 cheque in total.


This was seven weeks ago, haven't heard from them since and what's funnier still, the cheque still hasn't been drawn from my account!


We shall see if this changes....
Managing well since 2012
Debt-free
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  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    If you have found this forum why on earth would you pay?
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • The_Slithy_Tove
    The_Slithy_Tove Posts: 4,100 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    You didn't pay them 1p too much, you paid £50.01 too much. Why on earth did you dothat?
  • londonice
    londonice Posts: 62 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Dee140157 wrote: »
    If you have found this forum why on earth would you pay?

    Sometimes I wondered that myself. Though what with saying this, I read the forum but fancied trying to find a novel way of beating the private pcn system, this is my contribution.
    Pay, but pay just a bit too much. It's probably one of the oldest tricks in the book.
    Sensible companies would cash it and send you change. My hope is to confuse the system.
    Managing well since 2012
    Debt-free
  • londonice
    londonice Posts: 62 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    You didn't pay them 1p too much, you paid £50.01 too much. Why on earth did you dothat?

    The cheque still has not been cashed, I'm growing old waiting for it! Also, please read my other reply.
    Managing well since 2012
    Debt-free
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    An interesting idea. However a financially risky one for many. Still if not taken for 6 months it would no longer be valid.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • The_Slithy_Tove
    The_Slithy_Tove Posts: 4,100 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    londonice wrote: »
    Sometimes I wondered that myself. Though what with saying this, I read the forum but fancied trying to find a novel way of beating the private pcn system, this is my contribution.
    Pay, but pay just a bit too much. It's probably one of the oldest tricks in the book.
    Sensible companies would cash it and send you change. My hope is to confuse the system.
    A high risk approach for which you may have been lucky this time. Don't forget that PPCs are not sensible and definitely are not ethical. I am surprised they haven't paid the cheque, to be honest.
  • halibut2209
    halibut2209 Posts: 4,250 Forumite
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    An ultimately futile gesture with the only person standing to lose being you.

    Best case scenario - they don't cash the cheque and then pursue you through the courts meaning this whole exercise is futile

    Worst case scenario - they cash the cheque leaving you unnecessarily out of pocket.

    You seem to think they are not entitled to an overpayment. You would be wrong. Giving change is not a legal requirement. Yes, you may be able to sue them for the 1p, but again completely futile.

    I think the website you are looking for is moneywastingexpert.com
    One important thing to remember is that when you get to the end of this sentence, you'll realise it's just my sig.
  • londonice
    londonice Posts: 62 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    An ultimately futile gesture with the only person standing to lose being you.

    Best case scenario - they don't cash the cheque and then pursue you through the courts meaning this whole exercise is futile

    Worst case scenario - they cash the cheque leaving you unnecessarily out of pocket.

    You seem to think they are not entitled to an overpayment. You would be wrong. Giving change is not a legal requirement. Yes, you may be able to sue them for the 1p, but again completely futile.

    I think the website you are looking for is moneywastingexpert.com



    Thank you Halibut but incorrect advice is dangerous for the rest of the board.

    I am well versed in contract law and can state with some authority the following:

    You mention in your "best case scenario" that the company may try to pursue me through the courts after I sent them payment via cheque that they have not or would not cash.
    The court would immediately throw out (dismiss) the case as complaint without grounds and refusal to accept reasonable payment would be enough to consider the "contract" void. I can prove that I sent them payment (special delivery signature) along with a letter, photocopy of the cheque and cheque stub. In fact, they would not be able to do anything apart from be labelled as a "vexatious litigant" if they continued that course of action.


    Also that claiming back the 1p would in fact be very worthwhile as interest can be added as well as direct costs, including costs of writing letters to them as well as the county court costs to claim back the 1p. The process however is, in itself, excessive.


    In the meantime, I shall assume that MET Parking services have rescinded their claim to the "contract" and the matter closed.
    Managing well since 2012
    Debt-free
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    So you are well versed in contract law, so you send a cheque to pay an unlawful penalty that relies upon people's ignorance of the fact that there is no need to spend a single penny on this, providing of course you follow the advice.

    Honestly I give up sometimes !
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • halibut2209
    halibut2209 Posts: 4,250 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    You go to court for 1p, then come back and tell us how you did.
    One important thing to remember is that when you get to the end of this sentence, you'll realise it's just my sig.
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