Parking eye won cambridge case

nobbysn*ts

nigelbb wrote: »

A fairer method of management would be barriers on entry & exit with parking fees in line with the council car park across the road & a reimbursement of the cost of parking by the retailers for genuine shoppers.

Difficult one this. Personally, I hate barrier car parks where you are obliged to spend money in a store to exit. Nearly killed off our local supermarket, as they only got people who went to buy a weekly shop. No one went in for small items, or simply to browse, as they couldn't get out again. When they took out the barriers, they had the shop full again. I like shopping, I'll do in just to browse, and impulse buy if I see anything. I won't if I need to queue for ages for a packet of gum to make sure I can get out though. I also object to paying for parking anyway, so I only shop if there's a free car park, and they want my business.

Bantex_2

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

Difficult one this. Personally, I hate barrier car parks where you are obliged to spend money in a store to exit. Nearly killed off our local supermarket, as they only got people who went to buy a weekly shop. No one went in for small items, or simply to browse, as they couldn't get out again. When they took out the barriers, they had the shop full again. I like shopping, I'll do in just to browse, and impulse buy if I see anything. I won't if I need to queue for ages for a packet of gum to make sure I can get out though. I also object to paying for parking anyway, so I only shop if there's a free car park, and they want my business.[/QUOTES
Somebody has to pay fro your parking, who do you think it should be?

nobbysn*ts

Bantex wrote: »

nobbysn*ts wrote: »

Difficult one this. Personally, I hate barrier car parks where you are obliged to spend money in a store to exit. Nearly killed off our local supermarket, as they only got people who went to buy a weekly shop. No one went in for small items, or simply to browse, as they couldn't get out again. When they took out the barriers, they had the shop full again. I like shopping, I'll do in just to browse, and impulse buy if I see anything. I won't if I need to queue for ages for a packet of gum to make sure I can get out though. I also object to paying for parking anyway, so I only shop if there's a free car park, and they want my business.[/QUOTES
Somebody has to pay fro your parking, who do you think it should be?

It's a cost to the business I buy from. They provide a car park, I shop.

carandbike

Bantex wrote: »

Never have so far as far a parking goes. I park, I know what time I have to be back by and will leave whatever shopping I am doing to get back. Never really found it a problem.

Fantastic! I am almost as perfect as yourself. However I did commit one heinous act of overstaying, by less than half an hour. One of our party took ill and has medical history of ten years for the problem. That was why we overstayed. Did that matter? No of course not. I absolutely deserved to be charged £85 for going to retail park and spending near on £150 in the shops there.

Silly me for thinking otherwise! :beer:

surfboy1

Bantex, why does somebody have to pay for his parking?
What is wrong with free parking?
Plenty of free parking car parks about, and there is no "parking chaos" on the ones I know of !

carandbike

Bantex wrote: »

Somebody has to pay fro your parking, who do you think it should be?

Really?
I don't recall paying for parking until relatively recently.
I certainly do not recall supermarkets and retail parks almost routinely having a parking company involved with them on site.
A car park was always a loss leader to get you to hopefully spend in the shop.

bazster

bargepole wrote: »

You only have to read the VCS v HMRC Appeal judgment, and in particular the bit about offering to sell you Buckingham Palace for £1 being a valid contract, to realise how out of touch some of the higher echelons of the Judiciary are.

This is why I would have some concerns about going to the CoA, if the defendants decide to appeal. There would be three Judges, all on well into six figure salaries, who would probably regard paying £85 to extend their parking time as just small change.

Indeed. I was a close follower of the "No To The Bike Parking Tax" campaign, and in the High Court (I think) one of the judges commented to the effect "who cares, it's only £1", apparently oblivious to the fact that her job was to adjudicate on the legal position, not on her personal opinions about the level of the charge.

bazster

Somebody has to pay fro your parking, who do you think it should be?

When I go to the supermarket and pay for my shopping, as well as the goods in my basket I am paying for the roof over my head, the floor I'm walking on, the shelving, the staff - and the car park.

If a retailer required you to clock in to the shop and clock out again, and charged you £70 if you overstayed, no-one would ever shop in that store. The only reason they can get away with it in the car park is that you have a great big number on the front and back of your car, and most people don't know that it's happening - until they get caught out, of course.

Bantex_2

bazster wrote: »

When I go to the supermarket and pay for my shopping, as well as the goods in my basket I am paying for the roof over my head, the floor I'm walking on, the shelving, the staff - and the car park.

And if you decide to buy a Mars bar and go off to the station (which would charge to park) and leave your car at the retailers for the rest of the day whilst you go to work. Hence the reason for time limits and other conditions.

nobbysn*ts

bazster wrote: »

When I go to the supermarket and pay for my shopping, as well as the goods in my basket I am paying for the roof over my head, the floor I'm walking on, the shelving, the staff - and the car park.

If a retailer required you to clock in to the shop and clock out again, and charged you £70 if you overstayed, no-one would ever shop in that store. The only reason they can get away with it in the car park is that you have a great big number on the front and back of your car, and most people don't know that it's happening - until they get caught out, of course.

Playing devils advocate a bit, but also from experience, you shouldn't go into the costa in Tesco's with a bag of donuts from the store, and try to make a cup of coffee last for more than 3hrs, and use the free internet, just because you've mixed up the times you're meeting someone. They don't like that, and do actually ask you to move on when they become full, and the people who just bought coffee can't sit down. They glare at you a bit before as well. And bang the cup when they take it away. But as you say, you can then sit in the car at least.