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  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    I've been trying to buy a house and have been told by multiple EAs that landlords are flocking en-masse round every house that's in my price range.

    Even the house I bought a LL had already put an offer in on it (and I suspect bought the next one that month too).

    Sometimes it sounds to me that I am the only OO buyer in my area.

    Most houses I've viewed in the past 6-9 months have appeared as rentals.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Difference is that there is no limit to how many cars can be built. unlike housing which is restricted.
    Point missed Bantex, it's not about car production but car use where you pollute the environment and use up a valuable resource by being greedy and lazy because you want 2 or more cars.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    100% tongue in cheek but the real point is such focus is placed on housing, BTL, interest rates etc... that there are much bigger issues that our society faces, some people need to get out more.

    We only have one car.

    All true. But home ownership with mortgage paid off, and second home ownership, especially BTL, are considered by the left to indicate a bourgeois lifestyle. I bet some of those people read the Daily Mail too. As we know little enrages the left more than the bourgeoisie. Thus the focus on this issue. The irony is that the complaints are all about the alleged inability of enough of the perceived 'have-nots' to join them ! But that rather sums it all up, doesn't it.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • chucky
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    Bantex wrote: »
    What proof do you need? The stock of housing cannot keep up with demand due to building restrictions. The available stock can either go to OO or rental. Increase one and the other falls. As shortfall increases (in either sector) prices rise. Just maths really.
    It's a bit more than 'just maths'.

    You make lots of claims that you don't back up, a few people have been questioning you but you never back it up.

    How about backing up the below or is it 'just maths' where it doesn't have to be backed up?
    Bantex wrote: »
    True.
    I was thinking more of BTL which I believe has blocked many from becoming owners due to driving up prices on FTB type properties
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    Point missed Bantex, it's not about car production but car use where you pollute the environment and use up a valuable resource by being greedy and lazy because you want 2 or more cars.
    As pointed out earlier, you can only drive one at a time though, so resources are not affected. You owning a second car is not stopping anyone else from buying one though.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Bantex wrote: »
    Difference is that there is no limit to how many cars can be built. unlike housing which is restricted.

    I wonder how many Labour voting families have just one car and are happy to stay that way indefinitely.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • chucky
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    All true. But home ownership with mortgage paid off, and second home ownership, especially BTL, are considered by the left to indicate a bourgeois lifestyle. I bet some of those people read the Daily Mail too. As we know little enrages the left more than the bourgeoisie. Thus the focus on this issue. The irony is that the complaints are all about the alleged inability of enough of the perceived 'have-nots' to join them ! But that rather sums it all up, doesn't it.
    100% right.

    Most of the time it's their life choices that have put them in a position of not being able to buy a property not that they are unaffordable. I'm sure there are exceptions to this though.
  • CLAPTON
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    Jason74 wrote: »
    While I know you're being tongue in cheek here, you do actually raise a valid point. The uneven distribution of resources in our society (and more importantly on a global level) is a genuine problem imho. What to do about it is another matter entirely I grant you, as previous attempts to create a more equal society have in the main not ended particularly well (to say the least).

    do you have any actual evidence that a more even distribution of income / wealth

    -increases the incomes of the poorest?
    -increases the overall income of the country/world?

    it's been tried to some extent in places like USSR Chine and Cambodia without the 'expected' positive results.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    As pointed out earlier, you can only drive one at a time though, so resources are not affected. You owning a second car is not stopping anyone else from buying one though.
    A husband and wife don't use 2 cars at the same time then?
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    A husband and wife don't use 2 cars at the same time then?
    Not for the same journey.
    For separate trips if no second car available one would have to take a cab, so again no saving of limited resources.
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