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Shop Owner's rights over dipped pavement...help!

Dynamene
Posts: 1 Newbie
So,
I live in a small village behind a Post Office which is attached to the Village Shop (both owned by the same person). There are no parking restrictions on the road, it's a public road and the curb in front of the Post Office and Shop has been dipped, presumably to enable customers to park there.
I've lived her for 7 years and never really had a problem as I've only recently had children so before this I was at work all day and not here etc...
Anyway, I'm currently at home looking after the 2 little ones. If I've been out and return during shop opening hours, 9/10 times 1 or both of the parking spaces by the dipped curb have been taken by customers...fair enough....I get that it's a business although it IS difficult with 2 little ones plus usually shopping etc. My next door neighbour has a drive for 1 car and also a large pick up work vehicle. When he gets in from work he sometimes parks directly outside the Post Office (and my property directly behind it) meaning that when I get in I have to park in the second space, directly in front of the shop.
The shop owner has now said we either need to park directly outside the Post Office (if free) or somewhere else as his delivery man finds it difficult in the morning if he can't get right outside and has said he'll be knocking on doors soon if the car is there...presumably at 6am or whatever time he gets there! My issue is that I don't think that with 2 children and usually a load of bags we should have to park all the way up the street during the day AND at night if my neighbour is there (he has said he will park up the road a bit if it's free but his truck is massive and sometimes doesn't fit).
Anyway...my question is...does the shop owner have legal rights to the bit of dipped pavement directly outside his shop front or shall I just tell him that I'll try to park elsewhere but if I can't, I can't? I don't think it hurts his delivery man to get his wheels out of the van and wheel the delivery in, it's only a village shop, not Tesco!
Any advice or help please?
I live in a small village behind a Post Office which is attached to the Village Shop (both owned by the same person). There are no parking restrictions on the road, it's a public road and the curb in front of the Post Office and Shop has been dipped, presumably to enable customers to park there.
I've lived her for 7 years and never really had a problem as I've only recently had children so before this I was at work all day and not here etc...
Anyway, I'm currently at home looking after the 2 little ones. If I've been out and return during shop opening hours, 9/10 times 1 or both of the parking spaces by the dipped curb have been taken by customers...fair enough....I get that it's a business although it IS difficult with 2 little ones plus usually shopping etc. My next door neighbour has a drive for 1 car and also a large pick up work vehicle. When he gets in from work he sometimes parks directly outside the Post Office (and my property directly behind it) meaning that when I get in I have to park in the second space, directly in front of the shop.
The shop owner has now said we either need to park directly outside the Post Office (if free) or somewhere else as his delivery man finds it difficult in the morning if he can't get right outside and has said he'll be knocking on doors soon if the car is there...presumably at 6am or whatever time he gets there! My issue is that I don't think that with 2 children and usually a load of bags we should have to park all the way up the street during the day AND at night if my neighbour is there (he has said he will park up the road a bit if it's free but his truck is massive and sometimes doesn't fit).
Anyway...my question is...does the shop owner have legal rights to the bit of dipped pavement directly outside his shop front or shall I just tell him that I'll try to park elsewhere but if I can't, I can't? I don't think it hurts his delivery man to get his wheels out of the van and wheel the delivery in, it's only a village shop, not Tesco!
Any advice or help please?
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He has no right to tell you anything, its a public road and he is not a council CEO! However that's not to say you should park there, it would be handy if you can provide a google streetview link of where this place is.When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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Do you mean a dropped kerb? If so, do vehicles use this to drive across the pavement to the shop? It's difficult to envisage what you mean.0
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If it is a dropped kerb to assist pedestrians, especially those with limited mobility, parking in front of it can get you a PCN.0
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But not from the shopkeeper, it's pretty hard to know the lay of the land by the description given hence the reason of asking for streetview of itWhen posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
We don't need the following to help you.
Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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I've always thought if it's a dipped curb then it shouldn't be blocked as it's designed to be accessible for disabled people etc . Not to permit somebody to park there.
But no the shop has no right to tell another user of a public road they can't use it just because they want to use it.
He can knock on the door if he wants - if it was my door he'd get some choice words in return0 -
I've always thought if it's a dipped curb then it shouldn't be blocked as it's designed to be accessible for disabled people etc . Not to permit somebody to park there.
But no the shop has no right to tell another user of a public road they can't use it just because they want to use it.
He can knock on the door if he wants - if it was my door he'd get some choice words in return
Entirely agree, the shop had no right to stop you parking anywhere you want. And as aircon says, heaven help him if he knocked on my door, it wouldn't be the first fight in the small hours, if you know what I mean.0 -
Two things come to mind, one-you should not be parking over a dropped kerb anyway and two, is a neighbour allowed to park such a big truck overnight on the road?I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
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I've always thought if it's a dipped curb then it shouldn't be blocked as it's designed to be accessible for disabled people etc . Not to permit somebody to park there.
But no the shop has no right to tell another user of a public road they can't use it just because they want to use it.
He can knock on the door if he wants - if it was my door he'd get some choice words in return
The point is the shop owner may be in a position to phone the Council's parking enforcement team, who can issue a ticket. It depends on why the OP means by a 'dipped curb', the layout is not clear.0
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