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Epc ??

Hello and sorry if this has been posted before, I want to sell my house to my Daughter and boyfriend, my daughter lives here with me, question is do I need to get an EPC report there is no estate agent involved at all, she has a morgage offer in principal, do I need a report before we start the ball rolling
thankyou.

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  • harrys_dad
    harrys_dad Posts: 1,997 Forumite
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    Hi, I can't answer your EPC question but am wondering why you are selling to your daughter and her boyfriend, and hope you have made sure your interests are being looked after. There are many threads on here about house sales between family members and a number end in heartbreak.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Lgally - yes.

    https://www.gov.uk/buy-sell-your-home/energy-performance-certificates

    In practice - is she or anyone else going to report you ...?

    They are such a waste of time and money!
  • crispy1955
    crispy1955 Posts: 14 Forumite
    edited 7 May 2014 at 7:11PM
    harrys_dad wrote: »
    Hi, I can't answer your EPC question but am wondering why you are selling to your daughter and her boyfriend, and hope you have made sure your interests are being looked after. There are many threads on here about house sales between family members and a number end in heartbreak.

    Thanks yes I understand it dosnt always work out with family, but I will be purchasing hopefully my final home (bungalow by the sea) and as they have no hope of getting on the housing ladder around here I'm letting them have it on the cheap, most important thing for me is knowing they are safe and secure, something we all want for our kids.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »

    Legally - no, actually. The requirement kicks in when the property is on the market, i.e. advertised - so they're not needed for private sales. See Part 5 of the Housing Act 2004.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    edited 7 May 2014 at 10:29PM
    davidmcn wrote: »
    Legally - no, actually. The requirement kicks in when the property is on the market, i.e. advertised - so they're not needed for private sales. See Part 5 of the Housing Act 2004.
    Cheers. I went by the .gov website - notoriously innaccurate - which says:
    Energy Performance Certificates (EPCs) are needed whenever a property is:
    • built
    • sold
    • rented
    and must admit I thought that even where no marketing took place an EPC ws required.

    I note Part 5 applies to the now defunct Home Info Packs, but presume it is still relevant to EPCs?

    http://hold.epcregister.com/ is offline so can't check there.

    edit: This site (http://www.energy-performance-certificates.org/epc ) says:
    EPC on private sales

    As you might have guessed, even private sales to family members do not escape the duty to get an Energy Performance Certificate.
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    The relevant regulation is the Energy Performance of Buildings (England and Wales) Regulations 2012, section 6.

    While the EPC ratings must be included in any advertisement, the whole EPC must be made "available free of charge a valid energy performance certificate to any prospective buyer or tenant at the earliest opportunity".
    Moreover, it must be ensured that "a valid energy performance certificate has been given free of charge to the person who ultimately becomes the buyer or tenant".
    The above applies "where a building is to be sold or rented out".

    Therefore an EPC is required whenever a property is sold or let, whether it is advertised or not.

    In OP's case, I would probably not bother, though.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    jjlandlord wrote: »
    Therefore an EPC is required whenever a property is sold or let, whether it is advertised or not.

    I stand corrected.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    I stand corrected.
    I think HIPs did not apply to private sales, but the rules for EPCs were updated considerably when HIPs were abolished, as jj points out.
  • Yes you need one, but the only person who will check is the person doing the conveyancing, and they may insist on one so i'd check with them.

    You shouldn't have to pay more than £50 for one anyway, and if your daughter is planning on making improvements when they move in (new boiler, windows, doors etc), if they install two of the recommendations on the EPC that are also listed in the GDHIF they can get £1500 cash back + £100 back for the assessment (or £6000 for solid wall insulation) so they may want one anyway as they could help you daughter save some money when she moves in.
    "talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish" - Euripides
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