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Perception vs Reality
HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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An interesting series of quotes below.....
Taken at face value, you'd think these people were from an inner city ghetto, over-run by immigrants.
There is of course just one problem with these attitudes.
The interviewed parties were not living in Boston, or Luton, or some other area with high immigration.
They were living in Newark.
And according to the latest data, 94% of residents in the area are of white British origin.
Just 1.8% of locals are from the EU accession states.
Another case of perception being extremely different to reality.
The tabloid press, and the various weathervaning politicians who have found it convenient to blame The Great European Scapegoat for almost all of their own failings over the last few decades, really do have a lot to answer for.
Taken at face value, you'd think these people were from an inner city ghetto, over-run by immigrants.
Shopper Yvonne Mastin, 61, was happy to repeat one of Ukip’s slogans she had read on a leaflet recently put through her door. “We do want Britain back to how it used to be. It’s got totally out of hand,” she said.
Over at his stall selling mobility scooters was Kevin Walker, 54, also a Farage fan. “A vote for him is a vote not for the other two,” he said. “There are too many of them [immigrants]. Whoever said they are not taking our jobs is talking rubbish. If you go to the fields around here see how many of them speak English.
“It’s the same anywhere you go now. I do a lot of care homes and they are all foreign staff. It’s not because we won’t do the jobs it’s because they won’t kick up a fuss and they are cheaper. They will work long hours, but it is not right,” he added.
Customer Terence Dilger, 65, was pondering what to have for his dinner. He was less equivocal in voicing his support for Mr Farage.
“I think he is right on immigration – it is as simple as that,” he said. “When I first came to _____ it was an ordinary town. Now it is a League of Nations. You feel like a stranger in your own town. Even if he didn’t win he would have got his message across.”
Butcher Michael Thorne, 48, was an unabashed fan of Mr Farage having spent 15 minutes in the Ukip leader’s company at a recent market day.
“He is a down-to-earth bloke and he doesn’t beat around the bush. It’s about time we had someone like that,” he said. “It’s about British people for British jobs as far as I’m concerned.
There is of course just one problem with these attitudes.
The interviewed parties were not living in Boston, or Luton, or some other area with high immigration.
They were living in Newark.
And according to the latest data, 94% of residents in the area are of white British origin.
Just 1.8% of locals are from the EU accession states.
Another case of perception being extremely different to reality.
The tabloid press, and the various weathervaning politicians who have found it convenient to blame The Great European Scapegoat for almost all of their own failings over the last few decades, really do have a lot to answer for.
“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »An interesting series of quotes below.....
Taken at face value, you'd think these people were from an inner city ghetto, over-run by immigrants.
There is of course just one problem with these attitudes.
The interviewed parties were not living in Boston, or Luton, or some other area with high immigration.
They were living in Newark.
And according to the latest data, 94% of residents in the area are of white British origin.
Just 1.8% of locals are from the EU accession states.
Another case of perception being extremely different to reality.
The tabloid press, and the various weathervaning politicians who have found it convenient to blame The Great European Scapegoat for almost all of their own failings over the last few decades, really do have a lot to answer for.
Although I've never knowingly been to Newark, one would image it is not entirely isolated from the rest of the country.0 -
Although I've never knowingly been to Newark, one would image it is not entirely isolated from the rest of the country.
One would imagine not.
However it's pretty hard to misconstrue the following as being about the 'rest of the country'....When I first came to Newark it was an ordinary town. Now it is a League of Nations. You feel like a stranger in your own town.
So despite Newark being around 95% White British, these people feel like 'strangers in their own town'.
You couldn't make it up....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Regardless of perception, all of those comments are monumentally narrow minded. I must be one of the few people that thinks that interacting with people of different origins is a good thing.
This in particular:
"“It’s the same anywhere you go now. I do a lot of care homes and they are all foreign staff. It’s not because we won’t do the jobs it’s because they won’t kick up a fuss and they are cheaper. They will work long hours, but it is not right,” he added. "
Wow.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Regardless of perception, all of those comments are monumentally narrow minded. I must be one of the few people that thinks that interacting with people of different origins is a good thing.
This in particular:
"“It’s the same anywhere you go now. I do a lot of care homes and they are all foreign staff. It’s not because we won’t do the jobs it’s because they won’t kick up a fuss and they are cheaper. They will work long hours, but it is not right,” he added. "
Wow.
It's remarkable just what an ignorant and distorted view of reality some people have.
It really does make you worry for the future.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Do you think that driving down the wages of care workers is a good thing?Regardless of perception, all of those comments are monumentally narrow minded. I must be one of the few people that thinks that interacting with people of different origins is a good thing.
This in particular:
"“It’s the same anywhere you go now. I do a lot of care homes and they are all foreign staff. It’s not because we won’t do the jobs it’s because they won’t kick up a fuss and they are cheaper. They will work long hours, but it is not right,” he added. "
Wow.0 -
Do you think that driving down the wages of care workers is a good thing?
I imagine the answer to that question varies greatly depending on whether you're the person needing to spend tens of thousands of pounds a year on care, or the person trying to charge more for your services as a care worker.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »I imagine the answer to that question varies greatly depending on whether you're the person needing to spend tens of thousands of pounds a year on care, or the person trying to charge more for your services as a care worker.
Exactly, so winners and losers. Most will see the immigration issue from which one they are. Can't blame them for that.
Supply and demand does apply to labour as well as houses.0 -
Do you think that driving down the wages of care workers is a good thing?
I guess anyone who doesn't work in care would say yes to this question.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
I guess anyone who doesn't work in care would say yes to this question.
I don't work in care.
I don't think it's a good idea to drive down carers wages.
I don't believe a race to the bottom in any circumstances is good, let alone when you are talkign about caring for peopole who can't care for themselves.0
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