We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum... Read More »
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Only freedom will do
Comments
-
edinburgher wrote: »Offaly hoity toity for a rent seeker today GG, aren't we?
Git oaf ma piece o'land
.That mix of financial ambition and formerly penniless well-educated working class? It describes me, anyway
Me too - but turned out differently :rotfl:.A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort Mortgage Balance = £0
"Do what others won't early in life so you can do what others can't later in life"0 -
edinburgher wrote: »KC, if I ever need a publicist, you're getting the job
After a good think about money and class, I think it's fair to say this. I was raised in a middle class household where there was a big focus on education, a bit of a focus on spirituality, and next to no instruction in the ways of the world.
Where this fell down slightly was a lack of direction as to what the point of all this education was... I don't think it's unkind to say that neither of my parents had/have any particular aspirations of material success, although they have done very well for themselves over time.
In terms of money, we were decidedly working class. I'm from a big family, my parents switched careers several times and I'm sure we struggled at times. There was a lot of love, but I think they stretched themselves too thin, I don't think they really felt 'flush' until they were in their 50s.
How can you be both working and middle class at the same time?2018 totals:
Savings £11,200
Mortgage Overpayments £5,5000 -
:eek: Is this the start of another collection Alex :eek:, let me know if you need some help to declutter.2 packets of chocolate Buttons.
I read a good definition of class relating to university:
The underclass never think of university
The working class hope their children might go to university
The middle class assume their children will go to university
The upper class know their children will go to their old college
In general I think class is as much about attitude and expectations as money and lifestyle.
Just found this I had read before:
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]RICH HALL, a US stand-up comic, explained: when you go to work in the morning, if your name is on the front of the building, you're upper class; if your name is on your desk, you're middle class; and if your name is on your shirt, you're working class. [/FONT]
I don't have a middle name. If I take my maiden name as one then my name is on the front of the building :j (well, my initials are :rotfl:)A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort Mortgage Balance = £0
"Do what others won't early in life so you can do what others can't later in life"0 -
:eek: Is this the start of another collection Alex :eek:, let me know if you need some help to declutter.
:rotfl: No, not another collection, my wife complains enough about the house being "full of junk". As for decluttering, :eek:, not my favourite task ...I read a good definition of class relating to university:
The underclass never think of [STRIKE]university
[/STRIKE]public school
The working class hope their children might go to [STRIKE]university[/STRIKE] public school but inevitably they don't
The middle class [STRIKE]assume[/STRIKE] find the cash to send their children [STRIKE]will go[/STRIKE] to [STRIKE]university
[/STRIKE] public school
The upper class know their children will go to their old school, attend their old college and inherit their title
In general I think class is as much about attitude and expectations as money and lifestyle.
That's better.Just found this I had read before:
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]RICH HALL, a US stand-up comic, explained: when you go to work in the morning, if your name is on the front of the building, you're upper class; if your name is on your desk, you're middle class; and if your name is on your shirt, you're working class. [/FONT]
I don't have a middle name. If I take my maiden name as one then my name is on the front of the building :j (well, my initials are :rotfl:)
That is an Americanised way to look at class and not relevant to Britain.2018 totals:
Savings £11,200
Mortgage Overpayments £5,5000 -
:eek: Is this the start of another collection Alex :eek:, let me know if you need some help to declutter.
I read a good definition of class relating to university:
The underclass never think of university
The working class hope their children might go to university
The middle class assume their children will go to university
The upper class know their children will go to their old college
In general I think class is as much about attitude and expectations as money and lifestyle.
Just found this I had read before:
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]RICH HALL, a US stand-up comic, explained: when you go to work in the morning, if your name is on the front of the building, you're upper class; if your name is on your desk, you're middle class; and if your name is on your shirt, you're working class. [/FONT]
I don't have a middle name. If I take my maiden name as one then my name is on the front of the building :j (well, my initials are :rotfl:)
I have 3 middle names if you want one 0 -
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort Mortgage Balance = £0
"Do what others won't early in life so you can do what others can't later in life"0
-
-
edinburgher wrote: »KC, if I ever need a publicist, you're getting the job
After a good think about money and class, I think it's fair to say this. I was raised in a middle class household where there was a big focus on education, a bit of a focus on spirituality, and next to no instruction in the ways of the world.
Where this fell down slightly was a lack of direction as to what the point of all this education was... I don't think it's unkind to say that neither of my parents had/have any particular aspirations of material success, although they have done very well for themselves over time.
In terms of money, we were decidedly working class. I'm from a big family, my parents switched careers several times and I'm sure we struggled at times. There was a lot of love, but I think they stretched themselves too thin, I don't think they really felt 'flush' until they were in their 50s.
I have been penniless more than once, most recently as the average clueless student who lived it up while failing to make a plan for his future Not all bad things end badly, however, if I hadn't ended up in debt I never would have discovered MSE (and eventually, my sense of financial purpose).
I now know that all I want are relatively simple things. Love, a family, good food and drink and somewhere warm to lay my head. I'm left cold when it comes to gadgets and gizmos, 'status symbols' and many of the things that my generation supposedly lusts after. It sometimes feels that what drives me now is the fear that, having discovered what I want, it will slip from my grasp.
Hence the focus on FI. The final salary money tree etc. is dead, every £ is one closer to a safe family life without material worry.
As for 'politics', I can find a place for most things in my world view, but there are some that don't sit so well. I understand that weapons and cigarettes will be made regardless of whether or not I don't invest in the companies that make them, I understand that not everyone can afford to buy a home... I suppose I'm a (lower case) socialist at heart and I still get angry every single time I see someone being taken advantage of.
thats just SO INFJ ... I almost almost recognise myself there lol0 -
i would say my parents considered themselves middle class ... we were not allowed ever to live in a council house, we were brought up to believe strongly in education, my father was an officer in the Navy ( one of prince Charles first bosses) and all the other wee things that make people middle class that i cant even recognise ( but other people do in me and often call me a snob or rich and often I say things differently etc) ... however, after my father left the navy and before he started many of his failed businesses we had no money, in the mean time my mother ( who never ever worked and doesnt believe women should work once married ) kept having kids ... so we never ever had money ...
so I would say i had a mentally middle class upbringing but most deff a physical working class upbringing .. As I have grown I have became more and more working class as thats where I am comfortable, people no longer need a thesaurus to understand what I am saying, I have happily lived in council houses, I no longer stand for queen and country at every opportunity, I work and study damn hard, I am working class and like most working class people I am working towards making my family's and my own life as good as I can0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 453.8K Spending & Discounts
- 244.3K Work, Benefits & Business
- 599.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.1K Life & Family
- 257.8K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.6K Read-Only Boards