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esa appeal from wrag to support

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  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    Ok, so you can't get CA, she might aswell complete the ESA3 and wait to see what she is entitled to on ESA IR,
  • TOBRUK
    TOBRUK Posts: 2,343 Forumite
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    nashly wrote: »
    Thanks for kind replies everyone they really are helpful, my wife's overall feeling about the whole process of Incapacity ESA and PIP is it makes her feel like she is on trial all the time therefore making her feel very guilty all the time, so sad for her.
    nashly, she is not alone in this, many of us (including myself) feel as though "we are on trial all the time". I know this is no comfort in your situation, but I wish you luck.

    Let us know when you get an answer re: income related ESA enquiry, whether she has been placed on cont. based by mistake (as I was) - I take it you have contacted them by now?
  • Morglin
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    nashly wrote: »
    Thanks for kind replies everyone they really are helpful, my wife's overall feeling about the whole process of Incapacity ESA and PIP is it makes her feel like she is on trial all the time therefore making her feel very guilty all the time, so sad for her.


    She shouldn't feel like that, and, unhappily, you do need to push and query the process every step of the way, if the DWP or Capita aren't doing their jobs properly.

    She is entitled to it, so remember that.

    Lin :)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • TOBRUK
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    Well said Lin, I totally agree with you.

    Yes, they do make you feel like that, it is natural.

    The process does test your stress levels and it is exhausting justifying your claim over and over, but when you are genuinelly struggling from day to day with your illness or condition, it is something you have to do. I know how difficult it is from experience, and in the past I have had to go through 2 tribunals.

    She is lucky that she has you to lean on. :)
  • Morglin
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    The process, currently, is to deter people.:mad:

    On a personal level, I haven't had any problems, but I do help neighbours etc., with various claims, and, at times, it is like trying yo knit jelly with a system near collapse and (cheap) but badly trained staff trying to deal with it all.

    The onky advice is to gather the evidence, press on, and get some welfare advice if it's needed.

    Daft system though, as it's costing more trying to put people off, than it would to just process the claims sensibly.

    Appeals etc. have rocketed, along with the costs.

    Dismal Duncan Smith has struck again.....:doh:

    Lin ;)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • nashly
    nashly Posts: 384 Forumite
    Still waiting
  • nashly
    nashly Posts: 384 Forumite
    still nothing
  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    edited 4 June 2014 at 8:37PM
    Nashly, I didn't spot in post #41 that you get WTC....
    I know very little about WTC, but is it correct that you are entitled to WTC when you work only a few hours a week? Is that because there is the disability element which allows you to recieve it whilst working less than 30 hours a week?

    If you do get ESA IR the WTC will be deducted
    So it would be about £141 - £95 = £46 and then your income deducted with a possible £20 disregard, if you earn £80 a week (you said you earn £8 an hour and I think you said somewhere you work 10 hours a week?) You will be not paid any ESA IR.
    If you earn £45 a week 5.5 hours a week, you may get ESA IR £20 a week
    If you stop working and you both don't have any savings, or anything else like property or income, she would get the full ESA IR amount about £141 a week.


    I have another bit of advice....... you said in post #30 that she was still on recon and this has been confirmed by phoning DWP last week....You need to ask for a callback from the appeal department to confirm that this is the case, you cannot rely on the first point of contact (the people who answer the phone when you phone in). You need to speak to the horses mouth on this issue.

    Also waiting for the appeal is one thing, but you can also write a letter asking for a supersession -an early reassessment because you think she should now qualify for the Suport Group.- You should tell them which SG descriptor you think she qualifies under and a letter from a doctor or a sicknote explaining the condition and how she fits support group.

    How long is she in WRAG for? When is her next scheduled re-assessment?

    By the way, which Support Group descriptor do you think she qualifies under?
  • nashly
    nashly Posts: 384 Forumite
    Hi Epitone just found your reply and will answer it tomorrow as a bit late and tired now
  • nashly
    nashly Posts: 384 Forumite
    epitome wrote: »
    Nashly, I didn't spot in post #41 that you get WTC....
    I know very little about WTC, but is it correct that you are entitled to WTC when you work only a few hours a week? Is that because there is the disability element which allows you to recieve it whilst working less than 30 hours a week?

    If you do get ESA IR the WTC will be deducted
    So it would be about £141 - £95 = £46 and then your income deducted with a possible £20 disregard, if you earn £80 a week (you said you earn £8 an hour and I think you said somewhere you work 10 hours a week?) You will be not paid any ESA IR.
    If you earn £45 a week 5.5 hours a week, you may get ESA IR £20 a week
    If you stop working and you both don't have any savings, or anything else like property or income, she would get the full ESA IR amount about £141 a week.


    I have another bit of advice....... you said in post #30 that she was still on recon and this has been confirmed by phoning DWP last week....You need to ask for a callback from the appeal department to confirm that this is the case, you cannot rely on the first point of contact (the people who answer the phone when you phone in). You need to speak to the horses mouth on this issue.

    Also waiting for the appeal is one thing, but you can also write a letter asking for a supersession -an early reassessment because you think she should now qualify for the Suport Group.- You should tell them which SG descriptor you think she qualifies under and a letter from a doctor or a sicknote explaining the condition and how she fits support group.

    How long is she in WRAG for? When is her next scheduled re-assessment?

    By the way, which Support Group descriptor do you think she qualifies under?

    Right here goes then, I do get the disability part of WTC and I sometimes get to the 16hrs I am supposed to do but some days I dont get enough hours to make up the 16hr week due to my disability, when this shortfall happens I put it in my diary as to ill to work which I am allowed to do, in fact I could take up to 26weeks a year sick leave and still qualify for WTC.

    My wife will write to them as telephoning seems to have achieved nothing and she will add which descriptor she fits for the support group, she will also get a letter from her GP to put with hers.

    She has been told wrag lasts for one year and has no assesment for ESA scheduled ( though she does for PIP )
    My wife had no assessment when migrated over from IB to ESA in October last year
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