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The Great Hastings Direct Rip Off!

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  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,920 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Jealous that you paid the DVLA £80 without a quibble yet complain that your insurance want to charge £35 for baiscally the same change? Strange person.

    If they don't like their jobs then they can move on, perhaps they should have tried harder at school?

    Ditto. If you dont like it then you should move onto another insurer.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • twincamms
    twincamms Posts: 51 Forumite
    GingerBob wrote: »
    They pay for the infrastructure, staffing and everything else by their core business, not by routine administrative work. Policy changes are effected instantly and cost the company virtually nothing. The vast majority of staff would be employed even if no one changed anything. They are a fixed cost. These scammers have spotted an opportunity and are exploiting it. Since when the hell does it cost £35 for an instantaneous update?

    Don't forget, insurance companies are the lowest of the low. They are cavalier with the data they hold about you, they generally make things difficult, and they overcharge you for basic admin. And, if they can wriggle out of paying a claim they'll do so. Thoroughly objectionable organisations, the lot of them.

    At last, someone who has a clear understanding of rip off Britain and all who sail in her, top man Ginger Bob!
  • twincamms
    twincamms Posts: 51 Forumite
    edited 28 April 2014 at 9:29PM
    Ditto. If you dont like it then you should move onto another insurer.

    Absolutely, and I will do as soon as this policy expires................
  • twincamms
    twincamms Posts: 51 Forumite
    Jealous that you paid the DVLA £80 without a quibble yet complain that your insurance want to charge £35 for baiscally the same change? Strange person.

    Hey forgotmybrain, the DVLA have to send you out a new log book, a new tax disc and new number plate document, the scamming insurers remove for example AB123 CDE and key in FG345 HIJ, hit a mouse job done and want to charge £35? And if you do want a copy they'll email it to you to print off at your expense!

    There is a difference....................
  • Smithers37
    Smithers37 Posts: 248 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    Why does ASDA charge me for my shopping? All they do is hit a till and job done.
    "Always fulfil your needs, only fulfil your wants when your needs are no longer a concern" - citricsquid
  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,920 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Who updates the insurance database then?

    Smithers37. Is that why they are using self service tills now? Is it free when you use those?
    I dont mind scanning my own shopping if its free.

    I can get £37 worth of shopping for free and then pay the trolley boy £80 to carry it to the car for me :)
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • GingerBob_3
    GingerBob_3 Posts: 3,659 Forumite
    Smithers37 wrote: »
    Why does ASDA charge me for my shopping? All they do is hit a till and job done.

    Exactly. I couldn't have explained it better myself.

    ASDA charge you for the goods you buy. Now if, when you trundled up to to the till they said "that'll be £85 for the shopping and £35 for till processing" you'd be somewhat aggrieved.

    It really is difficult to get the point across in this forum. How about this:

    Your average insurance company (e.g. Hastings Direct) applies the RyanAir pricing model. However, have you seen the recent RyanAir adverts? They are back-tracking from that obscene model they've been running with over the years. Why, because it's loosing them business. Sooner or later the insurance companies will wise up as well, but I'm not holding my breath.
  • TSx
    TSx Posts: 866 Forumite
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    Either way, you'll be paying for the admin somewhere, either as part of the premium or seperately. I believe the regulator prefers explicit charging for administration as only the consumers who require admin pay for it.

    I'm fairly confident that any of ryanairs recent changes are down to changes in legislation or advertising regulation.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,642 Forumite
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    ASDA charge you for the goods you buy. Now if, when you trundled up to to the till they said "that'll be £85 for the shopping and £35 for till processing" you'd be somewhat aggrieved.

    Not if the goods were lower in price because the cost of using a cashier etc was taken out of it.
    It really is difficult to get the point across in this forum. How about this:

    Your average insurance company (e.g. Hastings Direct) applies the RyanAir pricing model. However, have you seen the recent RyanAir adverts? They are back-tracking from that obscene model they've been running with over the years. Why, because it's loosing them business. Sooner or later the insurance companies will wise up as well, but I'm not holding my breath.

    Not comparable. The regulator has a preference for explicit charging and not bundled charging. Indeed, it has recently forced a lot of business down that route with the choice taken away. With insurance, the choice still exists.

    The OP would have benefitted this year from the higher priced bundled cross subsidy model instead of the explicitly charged model. However, all those on that model that had no admin tasks would have lost out because they are paying for the OPs admin and none they have created.

    Effectively, what you are saying is that it is fairer for everyone to pay more for other peoples admin rather than paying for their own as and when they create it. Whilst an element of cross subsidy has to exist, I don't see how others paying for your work is fair on those other people.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • trukdiver
    trukdiver Posts: 747 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    Not if the goods were lower in price because the cost of using a cashier etc was taken out of it.

    Lidl and Aldi are reputedly cheaper but they charge for bags, don't accept credit cards, don't have a customer service desk, don't help with packing, have narrower checkouts and have a smaller range of goods. Until recently, they didn't give cashback at the till and didn't even use baskets.
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