wages wrong for 3 years ???

lakes17

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Disciplinary for what? Not helpful from the managers.

Go direct to whoever is in control of the money and talk to them if I were you

but one thing that really annoyed me was my managers threat of fraud & disciplinary action against me if it esculates,which i have noted


I think you will find that the threat of disciplinary is aimed at fraud which technically the company are correct to have reasonable concerns over fraudulent activity. The OP reduces their hours but their pay doesn't go done and continues like this for 3 years, yet the OP maintains they weren't aware they were being overpaid!!! It looks more like to me that the OP knew but decided to keep quite. When I use to work in a similar environment it also use to amaze me that the number of people who had no difficulty in deciphering their payslip if their is an underpayment but when it's an overpayment claim they don't understand payslips and didn't realize they were being overpaid!!!

Takeaway_Addict

lakes17 wrote: »

but one thing that really annoyed me was my managers threat of fraud & disciplinary action against me if it esculates,which i have noted


I think you will find that the threat of disciplinary is aimed at fraud which technically the company are correct to have reasonable concerns over fraudulent activity. The OP reduces their hours but their pay doesn't go done and continues like this for 3 years, yet the OP maintains they weren't aware they were being overpaid!!! It looks more like to me that the OP knew but decided to keep quite. When I use to work in a similar environment it also use to amaze me that the number of people who had no difficulty in deciphering their payslip if their is an underpayment but when it's an overpayment claim they don't understand payslips and didn't realize they were being overpaid!!!

I don't neccersarily disagree but at the end of the day proving the OP was committing fraud is near on impossible and the employer either plays the hard game and has a short sighted view or they negotiate with the OP

makeyourdaddyproud

So a HR department can do their job incorrectly and walk away even though they could be paid more? My money is on a counter claim for HR negligence and employment damage that I reckon is worth £25k.

Still want your £3.5k now?

Takeaway_Addict

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

So a HR department can do their job incorrectly and walk away even though they could be paid more? My money is on a counter claim for HR negligence and employment damage that I reckon is worth £25k.

Still want your £3.5k now?

Why not make it a million pound as you're making things and silly numbers up...

The employer could discipline the people responsible if they feel like it but other than that its not the employees business what happens to those responsible.

tomtontom

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

So a HR department can do their job incorrectly and walk away even though they could be paid more? My money is on a counter claim for HR negligence and employment damage that I reckon is worth £25k.

Still want your £3.5k now?

My money is on you not having the faintest idea what you are talking about.

lakes17

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

I don't neccersarily disagree but at the end of the day proving the OP was committing fraud is near on impossible and the employer either plays the hard game and has a short sighted view or they negotiate with the OP

I agree with what you're saying, I'm actually coming from an HR/Payroll background and whilst common sense tells you that they must have known that if your hours reduce then your pay goes down, and they have just kept quiet. We would never threaten fraud, and do the repayment plan over number of years they were overpaid. However if they were uncooperative then we would take the hard line and do it over a shorter period.

redcard

Valli wrote: »

If I had a sudden, 'out of the blue' demand for £3.5K my attitude would be confrontational (in the first instance) too!

If it were me I would want recalculated wage slips to take into account correct level of stoppages etc before I even considered handing anything over!

Quite.

There's many posters on here that have been overpaid wages. There's always similarities:
They hardly ever check payslips or their bank balance
They always work more hours than they're paid for
The boss has it in for them
They never think the should pay it back as the company messed up in the first place


OP knew he was being overpaid, kept quiet about it, spent the extra money on takeaways and lager, and now he's too skint to pay it back.

kenf2210

hi,i knew about the overpaid wages ????? your joking right ? i dont get paid enough at my job and do more than 40 hrs a week but hey they seem to forget that,i have to log into a payslip site with a username and password and have done it once in the 3 years and hopefully they can check that,also was told by a financial advisor to sign nothing and check my wage slip to see if my hours worked are on there but cant login as i dont know the user/pass,did check a couple of old paper wageslips and guess what no hours on it and they are from 2012,they are trying to scam me and im not giving this up and it makes me feel like its being run by a criminal organisation and who knows maybe a horses head will turn up in my bed !!!!someone at HR is to blame for this or my old manager not processed the paperwork correctly with dropped pay + hours,tough on them not my fault someone couldnt do there job properly

patchwork_cat

A number of people have reiterated the question that I originally asked . What is the tax, NI situation with regards to the 3.5K?

Acc72

patchwork_cat wrote: »

A number of people have reiterated the question that I originally asked . What is the tax, NI situation with regards to the 3.5K?

If you were overpaid £3,500 Gross, then you repay £3,500 Gross - the Tax and NI just work themselves out.