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  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    shak2 wrote: »
    Please calm down.

    EITHER is an adverb that means TWO options (Used before the first of two (or occasionally more) given alternatives). those two options it refers to when saying either are repair or replace. Refund is not included when it says either.

    When returning an item the seller can repair or replace (at their option) or refund, at the buyers option. This is what makes this complex.

    Because the seller has refunded without the buyer requesting a refund, which is not allowed in law and might be the breach of contract that makes the case valid.

    It is also worth noting that the word either does not occur anywhere in Sections 48A/B/C/D/E or F of SoGA.

    Anything you have read with the word either in it is just an interpretation of the legislation and not the legislation itself.
  • Searcher
    Searcher Posts: 600 Forumite
    Shak2


    In your first post you asked for advice.
    Why did you do that?
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    wealdroam wrote: »
    Notice those words: The buyer must not require the seller...
    Edited because I'm not sure the OP got that ;)
  • powerful_Rogue
    powerful_Rogue Posts: 8,341 Forumite
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    edited 27 April 2014 at 4:52PM
    Heres the entire section of the Sales of Goods Act which applies to refunds, repairs and replacing. Hopefully if you see the actual law, it might make more sense to you.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54/part/5A

    Here is is broken down for you.

    48A
    (1)This section applies if—

    (a)the buyer deals as consumer or, in Scotland, there is a consumer contract in which the buyer is a consumer, and

    (b)the goods do not conform to the contract of sale at the time of delivery.

    (2)If this section applies, the buyer has the right—

    (a)under and in accordance with section 48B below, to require the seller to repair or replace the goods, or

    (b)under and in accordance with section 48C below—

    (i)to require the seller to reduce the purchase price of the goods to the buyer by an appropriate amount, or

    (ii)to rescind the contract with regard to the goods in question.

    48B
    (1)If section 48A above applies, the buyer may require the seller—

    (a)to repair the goods, or

    (b)to replace the goods.

    (2)If the buyer requires the seller to repair or replace the goods, the seller must—

    (a)repair or, as the case may be, replace the goods within a reasonable time but without causing significant inconvenience to the buyer;

    (b)bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so (including in particular the cost of any labour, materials or postage).

    (3)The buyer must not require the seller to repair or, as the case may be, replace the goods if that remedy is—

    (a)impossible, or

    (b)disproportionate in comparison to the other of those remedies, or

    (c)disproportionate in comparison to an appropriate reduction in the purchase price under paragraph (a), or rescission under paragraph (b), of section 48C(1) below.

    They dont have any replacements in stock and as you already pointed out, they wont be receiving any more in. Therefore the option of a replacement is - impossible.

    The only option remaining is for the retailer to refund.
  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    Shak2, can I ask you to have another read of post #103?

    I ask because, as Neilmcl has pointed out, you appear to have overlooked it.

    Thanks.
  • halibut2209
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    One important thing to remember is that when you get to the end of this sentence, you'll realise it's just my sig.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    wealdroam wrote: »
    Shak2, can I ask you to have another read of post #103?

    I ask because, as Neilmcl has pointed out, you appear to have overlooked it.

    Thanks.
    He seems to have overlooked the link posted in #66. This thread is definitely starting to have that whiff about it. :D
  • gik
    gik Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    wealdroam wrote: »
    Shak2, can I ask you to have another read of post #103?

    I ask because, as Neilmcl has pointed out, you appear to have overlooked it.

    Thanks.



    Or have a look at post #9 on page one!
  • Valli
    Valli Posts: 25,461 Forumite
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    He seems to have overlooked the link posted in #66. This thread is definitely starting to have that whiff about it. :D


    It's distinctive, isn't it - that Subway smell;)
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
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  • gik
    gik Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    Valli wrote: »
    It's distinctive, isn't it - that Subway smell;)



    I thought that said shell at first glance!
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