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Indie_Kid

fufu_banterwaite wrote: »

I did 10 miles Saturday and 25 miles on Sunday, has seriously made me realise I may have taken on more than I can chew with this ultramarathon!

For some utterly ridiculous reason, I once told my coach I want to do a marathon. He then replied "well, if you want to do a marathon, you need to do several halfs first". That might be your problem? Although, a friend did 103 miles in a 24 hour race. His longest training run was 50 miles.

Lizling

Are you following a training plan, Fufu? How does it work?

You seem to be building up the mileage pretty sensibly so I'm sure you'll get there as long as you can stay motivated.


I'm off orienteering with a couple of ultrarunners at the weekend. I've been concentrating on speedwork recently, not distance and not enough hills either, so not sure how this is going to go, lol!

Had a good running day today. My legs felt nice and rested from my easy week last week and we did pyramids with nice long intervals and everything felt good

Lomcevak

Lizling wrote: »

Obviously everyone's motivated differently, but actually I think the apps are really useful at the very beginning because most complete beginners aren't very good judges of how hard they should push themselves. Either they stop and walk when it first gets difficult, when really they could have pushed on to the end of the interval, or they try to do too much too soon (especially if they're fit but not used to the particular stresses of running) and end up getting injured.

I do agree with this (especially for relatively fit non-runners, I was one once too), but equally I think as experienced runners it's easy to forget the impact running has for a complete beginner if they even slightly overdo it. I had an interesting discussion with a sports science PhD at my local university who was leading a study on people starting to run to the first time, and in her study the average total running time before quitting was under half an hour. Many only ran one or two sessions, and only about a third were still running at the end of the study. The overwhelming reason for quitting quickly was doing too much and then feeling very sore for a day or two. So i'm a great believer in taking it extremely easy at first, even if that's too easy - much better long-term to underdo it at first than running once, spending a couple of days hobbling around, then quitting

Running's largely psychological ... There was something going around on Facebook recently that said "Running is nothing more than a series of arguments between the part of your brain that wants to stop and the part that wants to keep going.'

This is very true, the last six miles of my recent marathon were exactly this - the keep going bit won, fortunately, even if the rest of my brain wondered why the heck I was still trying to run 8-minute miles

Lomcevak

fufu_banterwaite wrote: »

I did 10 miles Saturday and 25 miles on Sunday, has seriously made me realise I may have taken on more than I can chew with this ultramarathon! ... I think maybe next week I will revert to the 25 minutes running and 5 minutes walking technique that apparently pretty much all ultramarathon runners use.

I'm um'ing and ah'ing about a fairly hilly 50km ultra this summer, it's about 5 hours for typical 3:30 marathon runner which is a bit scary but i've been told that effectively it's a marathon plus about 6 miles of walking and the walking makes it not too bad - unlike a marathon where you're flat out all the time you get a chance to stretch out and eat and drink properly (not just gels).

I really liked run/walk for building up the distance to my first marathon too

fufu_banterwaite

Yes I am following this training plan:

50 mile training plan. (Ps - I am not a lady)

The ultramarathon I am doing is 52.4miles.

I need to get what I eat right, most of the problem is I seem to be trotting along nicely and then all of a sudden about 18 miles I develop a stomach ache and need the toilet! I think I might be trying to take on too much dried fruit. Might try sticking with the energy gels and bloks and some Complan.

pablakeman

Lizling wrote: »

You're very lucky to have found something that suits you in Sports Direct. Last time I was in there the footwear 'specialist' said "What's a trail shoe?" :rotfl: (For those here that are new to running, it is, as you have probably guessed, a shoe for running on trails. Not complicated or particularly niche.)

He also tried to sell me Karrimors despite the fact that they're an extremely bad fit on me (a couple of cm too wide and practically fall off, they slop around so much on my heel.)

I went to Runners World instead and got a pair that really do fit for£30.

I used to use new balance but the Karrimor fit me perfectly!

Indie_Kid

I wouldn't touch Karimoor. Many running friends claim they're no good.

I have a race on Sunday. Went out for what was meant to be a gentl 5k yesterday. I got a seasons best.

Syman

Lomcevak wrote: »

The apps are good for planning, but personally i'd leave it at home when you get out, at least at the beginning - it's very important to start easy and listen to how you feel, do only as much as you feel like. There's no use in an app nagging you to do 90s jog or an extra couple of intervals if you only feel like 45s. You either end up overdoing it and feeling stiff and sore, or feeling like you've "failed" to complete the training programme. Neither is good for motivation

The other thing that's really important is decent shoes; worth finding a specialist running shop (not a high-street box-shifter). No need to spend a fortune, tell them you're a beginner on a budget and they'll have something suitable (and if they still try and sell you a £90 pair then walk out!)

I think your signature applies here too

I went out for the first session this morning. Felt a bit self concious, and it was hard, but thankfully not as hard as i thought it would be.

feel ok at the moment, as i had a easy stroll back home after.

Next session will be during the week.

Indie_Kid

5am runs now, I think.

Alias_Omega

Indie_Kid wrote: »

I wouldn't touch Karimoor. Many running friends claim they're no good.

Sports Direct own Karrimor.

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