GPEOL - Just a matter of time?

Hellfire.

Having just received the PPCs evidence pack as part of a POPLA appeal, I'm wondering if this particular GPEOL statement contains an actual genuine pre-estimate of loss

Surely, it's just a matter of time before PPCs do manage to establish a valid GPEOL? After all, they seem to get plenty of chances to amend and adapt it for POPLA purposes..........

fisherjim

Hellfire. wrote: »

Having just received the PPCs evidence pack as part of a POPLA appeal, I'm wondering if this particular GPEOL statement contains an actual genuine pre-estimate of loss

Surely, it's just a matter of time before PPCs do manage to establish a valid GPEOL? After all, they seem to get plenty of chances to amend and adapt it for POPLA purposes..........

I'm sure they could now but it would be a mere fraction of the inflated charges they try for now!

4consumerrights

Hellfire. wrote: »

Having just received the PPCs evidence pack as part of a POPLA appeal, I'm wondering if this particular GPEOL statement contains an actual genuine pre-estimate of loss

Surely, it's just a matter of time before PPCs do manage to establish a valid GPEOL? After all, they seem to get plenty of chances to amend and adapt it for POPLA purposes..........

Any chance of enlightening us further here - eg name of PPC or providing a breakdown of the costs etc

spacey2012

They can not make a genuine GPEOL statement, if every parking charge cost them what they alleged, they would go bust within the hour.

esmerobbo

Their genuine loss has always been claimable as long as they had a right to claim it, what they can not claim is an amount that is disproportionate to any loss suffered which is what they try to do.

They would have a difficult time explaining in most cases how breaching a condition cost them £50/£100

4consumerrights

There is one PPC which charges £30

Hot_Bring

Not going to happen for two reasons :

1. In most cases the loss would total a few pounds - maybe £20

2. BPA rules insist in a discount period. That means one of the two figures - either the discount figure or the full figure can't possibly be a GPEOL. The BPA in their stupidity have screwed over their members :rotfl:

spacey2012

The Income tax system allows for writing off what is known as unavoidable or bad loss.
How many of these losses do they file as tax deductibles ?
None, because the Inland revenue treat them as exactly what they are, invented charges to make profit.

nigelbb

In a free car park there cannot be any initial loss so no further costs can be incurred in chasing that loss.

In a pay & display car park there is an initial loss & a small amount needs to be spent to chase up that loss e.g. £2.50 to buy keeper details from the DVLA. However the cost of chasing cannot possibly amount to the exorbitant figures claimed wven if discounted by 40%.

Nodding_Donkey

Hellfire. wrote: »

Having just received the PPCs evidence pack as part of a POPLA appeal, I'm wondering if this particular GPEOL statement contains an actual genuine pre-estimate of loss

If it did how would they pay for their offices, staff, ticket machines, cameras etc etc

4consumerrights

I'm just interested in knowing which PPC this is and why this OP thinks that this could be a GPEOL.

It is known that PPCs have had "coaching" sessions via the BPA and therefore any creative or new listings need to be rebutted.