GPEOL - Just a matter of time?

bazster

Er, so where's the loss they incurred all those further losses chasing?

nigelbb

nigelbb wrote: »

They cannot confer that right. Trespass is the "unjustifiable interference with land which is in the immediate and exclusive possession of another". Only the person actually in possession of the land (landowner, leaseholder or tenant) can be wronged & thus is able to sue. A 3rd party PPC or management agent is not able to sue for trespass as they do not have possession of the land.

Custard_Pie wrote: »

Unless the third party or PPC has clear written authority from the landowner to recover costs and remedies on their behalf, including pursuing through the courts.

Of course, regardless, the remedies need to just and fair in relation to any alleged trespass.

NO! I just explained this. Only the person who has occupation of the land (or their legal representative) may sue for trespass. PPCs cannot sue for trespass.

Fergie76

Hellfire. wrote: »

CALCULATION OF OUR GENUINE PRE-ESTIMATE OF LOSSES:
ANPR/CCTV

* PCN Creation & Issue - Quality assurance and review of ANPR/CCTV camera images used in the processing of contraventions following a breach of the terms & conditions. Obtaining, matching and checking vehicle data and vehicle keeper details from the DVLA data in order to generate a PCN along with associated postage and stationery costs. Includes a provision for lack of DVLA keeper records and unserviceable addresses. Cost of maintaining a contact centre for phone enquiries relating to PCN’s.
£ 20.20

* Central Payments Office (CPO) – Indirect Overheads
The cost of maintaining computer hardware and software associated with the initial processing ANPR & CCTV contraventions and also the core software used to maintain PCN’s post issue date.
£ 2.15

* 1st Representations (appeals and challenges to the operator)
Receiving, logging, reviewing, writing and sending a written response to representations from the motorist. Includes a provision for cancellations arising from representations allowed and requests from the client or other interested parties.
£ 18.75

* 2nd Stage Process
Receiving, logging, reviewing, writing and sending a written response to a further representations and/or evidence from the motorist. Includes a provision for cancellations arising from representations allowed and requests from the client or other interested parties.
£ 14.15

* Notice to Drivers, Follow-up and Reminder Notices
Re-issuing the PCN where, for example, the keeper names another person as the driver. The issue of standard and ad-hoc reminder notices.
£ 7.84

DISCOUNTED STAGE TOTAL (1) £ 63.09

If we believe that these charges are recoverable, just for a split second...

If someone pays up straight away, then how does the 1st Representation, 2nd Stage Process and NTK Notices then become a claimable loss?

Ivor_Pecheque

if a charge looked like a penalty, quacked like a penalty and swam like a penalty, then it was probably a penalty

I'm sure I've heard that recently ?