Sleeping in Car at Car Park

Aretnap

bigjl wrote: »

The penalty for being drunk in charge of a vehicle is the same as drink driving.

It isn't actually.

Drink driving = mandatory disqualification (minimum 1 year), maximum fine £5000 and/or up to 6 months custody

Drunk in charge = 10 points or discretionary disqualification (no minimum length), maximum fine £2500 and/or up to 3 months custody.

Not that you'd want to be convicted of either of course.

Mark_Mark

bigjl wrote: »

That is irresponsible in the extreme.

The penalty for being drunk in charge of a vehicle is the same as drink driving.

If a copper finds you sleeping in a public place, such as a carpark, with the keys in either the ignition or present in the vehicle.

Then that Officer is very likely to report you for the offence.

Wether you successfully defend the allegation is a seperate issue.

It might be irresponsible in your opinion but it isn't an offence.

The penalty isn't the same, if you bother to read it.

People don't get reported for such offences as without a visit to the police station there would be a lack of evidence.

Mark_Mark

Aretnap wrote: »

Not necessarily. No intention of driving != no likelihood of driving. The bench would still have to consider the possibility that in spite of having the best of intentions when you got into the car, you'd wake up cold, drunk and uncomfortable in the middle of the night and think "!!!!!! this, I'll chance it". Or that you'd drive off first thing in the morning assuming that you were under the limit when actually you were still over it.

In any event as the onus is on you to prove the statutory defence you're much better off not getting into your car drunk in the first place than you are failing the breath test and hoping that someone will believe you when you say you wouldn't have driven.

It wouldn't get before a court if you answered any questions correctly.

Tiddlywinks

Anyway... back to the original question...

Some streets and car parks of London (like most cities) can change after dark and be quite grim.

Multi stories are often used by vagrants, gangs of kids might use them for hanging out, thieves go on the rob etc.

Parking on the road leaves you exposed to passers by and their noise and curiosity and opportunistic thieves trying the doors... cos if you're in the car asleep then your wallet etc are likely to be in there too. Plus, there's the chance of someone calling the police because they are concerned about you.

The chances of you getting much sleep are pretty slim.

I'd say if you absolutely have no other choice, choose a hospital car park - although they can be expensive - you can then claim to be recovering from travelling to visit a patient or sleeping before a long trip home.

Jamie_Carter

Mark_Mark wrote: »

If you actually knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't need to ask.

Some people just can't help making fools of themselves by showing their lack of knowledge.


Technically you could be deemed as being in charge of a vehicle if you are inside your own house with the keys in your pocket (but that obviously wouldn't even get to court). However you could be prosecuted if you are in a vehicle with the keys in your pocket.

Mark_Mark

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Some people just can't help making fools of themselves by showing their lack of knowledge.


Technically you could be deemed as being in charge of a vehicle if you are inside your own house with the keys in your pocket (but that obviously wouldn't even get to court). However you could be prosecuted if you are in a vehicle with the keys in your pocket.

Sigh, yet again you jump in with both feet.

Did you see the "no intention to drive"?

Jamie_Carter

Mark_Mark wrote: »

Sigh, yet again you jump in with both feet.

Did you see the "no intention to drive"?

How many people have to tell you that you are wrong before you will accept it??


The offence is 'being in charge of the vehicle'.




I would have thought that you would have learned not to use such an aggressive manner of posting after you were previously PPR'd under your previous name.

topdaddy_2

So we have assumed ym21 is an alchy?


Anyway Id try b n b's. There are some cheeeep ones to be had on laterooms and some arent that bad. Most will be better than sleeping in the car. But not all....

topdaddy_2

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

How many people have to tell you that you are wrong before you will accept it??


The offence is 'being in charge of the vehicle'.




I would have thought that you would have learned not to use such an aggressive manner of posting after you were previously PPR'd under your previous name.

Is that not nameS?

Jamie_Carter

topdaddy wrote: »

Is that not nameS?

Sorry, my mistake. Thankyou for correcting me.