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Apparently I use 412 litres a day?

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  • Beachbaby
    Beachbaby Posts: 12 Forumite
    I worked it out by using my bill. It was £73.90 for 3 months which is about £24.64 per month which is £6.16 a week which is £0.88 a day. The bill was actually for 16 cubic metres of water and that 88 pence a day includes standing charges.

    I'm not really sure what you're saying in your second paragraph but the bill really was £9000.00 for roughly 4-5 months of water, waste water and standing charges.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    edited 21 May 2014 at 9:15PM
    Beachbaby wrote: »
    I worked it out by using my bill. It was £73.90 for 3 months which is about £24.64 per month which is £6.16 a week which is £0.88 a day. The bill was actually for 16 cubic metres of water and that 88 pence a day includes standing charges.

    I'm not really sure what you're saying in your second paragraph but the bill really was £9000.00 for roughly 4-5 months of water, waste water and standing charges.

    What I am saying is the £9,000 bill cannot be correct.

    Even if the bill was for 5 months, the standing charges will be less than £60. So with water/sewerage at a cost of £2.851 per cubic metre(1000 litres) your leak would have totalled 3,463,774litres so 960 litres every hour for 5 months. That is an absolutely massive leak - around 400 baths a day.

    The water company stating they cannot trace a leak of that magnitude is just not plausible – they are the experts with sophisticated equipment that can trace tiny leaks. What hope would a plumber have if the water company couldn’t trace the leak?

    Also all water companies, including United Utilities, will trace and repair a leak on a one-off basis without charge. They say so on their website, see:

    http://www.unitedutilities.com/documents/private-leak-repair-scheme.pdf
    However, we’re not in the business of leaving our customers high and dry. So if you think your supply pipe is leaking, we’ll do our best to help – even if the problem turns out be on your side of the garden fence. Give us a call, and one of our engineers will be out to investigate.

    Once we’ve found the leak, you’ll be asked to sign a disclaimer form, authorising us to do the repair. We’ll then get the job done within 7-10 working days, free of charge.
    So perhaps you need to see why United Utilities have not adhered to their declared policy?
  • Clueless101
    Clueless101 Posts: 33 Forumite
    edited 22 May 2014 at 4:32AM
    Also, for 3 months (using 90 days as an average) £73.90 is 82p a day and 16 units is 178 litres a day. Plus 16 units at £2.85 would be £45.60, so £28.30 would be standing charges, leaving 51p a day as usage and 31p a day as standing charge (only approx. as gives a rounding error).
  • I would just like to say when people talk about avg cons for 1 occ....I work for a water company and we cover a few different areas....the avg in on is 92m3 per year, another is 66 and the third is 56m3...it does vary a lot on areas (and we do see these figures reflected on cons through meters)
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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    I would just like to say when people talk about avg cons for 1 occ....I work for a water company and we cover a few different areas....the avg in on is 92m3 per year, another is 66 and the third is 56m3...it does vary a lot on areas (and we do see these figures reflected on cons through meters)


    Are you saying that the average figure for a single occupant in one area is 92m3 pa?


    Firstly how do you find out if the property has a single occupant(excluding properties on assessed charges)


    Ofwat have a mass of data on consumption for consumption of both metered and unmetered property and over the last 20 years the average consumption has not varied greatly. The peak was an average per person of 152litres per day(55.5 m3 pa) and the low 53.3 m3 pa)


    Can you please give more information on those figures?
  • freshstart11
    freshstart11 Posts: 416 Forumite
    try this link: https://www.affinitywater.co.uk/index.aspx?co=thames&pg=172

    If you put in avg use it will come up with details I gave for higher use...HOWEVER it is a very use area compared to others
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  • freshstart11
    freshstart11 Posts: 416 Forumite
    obviously I am not stating any views of the company just the information form the website
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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    edited 25 June 2014 at 3:36PM
    try this link: https://www.affinitywater.co.uk/index.aspx?co=thames&pg=172

    If you put in avg use it will come up with details I gave for higher use...HOWEVER it is a very use area compared to others


    Well I don't know if there is some fault on that website, but this is a quote from Ofwat - and there are scores of other sites that give roughly the same ballpark figures:
    In England and Wales, on average
    each person currently uses about
    150 litres of water a day. That is
    more than in Germany, Austria and
    the Netherlands. Nor do we have to
    look overseas for examples of lower
    water use. Veolia Water East’s
    customers in the east of England
    use fewer than 120 litres per person
    each day on average.
    150 litres a day is 55 cubic metres(120 litres is 44 m3)

    Incidentally if you put in four people with average use in that Affinity website it comes up with a figure of 213m3 which at 53m3 per person is in line with the Ofwat figure.


    Affinity water is near Thames waters area yet their consumption figures are way lower.


    http://www.thameswater.co.uk/your-account/17690.htm


    Average userNumber of people
    in household
    1 2 3 4 5 6 Usage (m³)58 108 142 167 199 234
  • freshstart11
    freshstart11 Posts: 416 Forumite
    the other two areas wer cover have a much lower cons 180 and 130l per day. It is accepted that certain areas in the country use more water for what ever reason, be it for gardening/wasteage...

    it tends to be in this one area (we cover three remember) that the water tends to be wasteful/higher until you reach 3 people then tends to average out.

    We cover what was consider Veolia East, South East and Central. It is the cetral region that does use the larger amount. Compared to what was the East region which uses considerably lower amounts, but there is speculation regarding the region as there is a high level of retirement there so perhaps more mindful of costing/use, 1 occ using avg 120-140l

    I cant assure you these figures for central are sadly right as I have worked for the company for 5+ years
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  • freshstart11
    freshstart11 Posts: 416 Forumite
    also the post you have quoted is awful not been known as Veolia in nearly two years! (not saying your fault in slightest just surprised not updated!)
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