Stormont grounds

warmhands.coldheart

IrishRose12 wrote: »

I'll admit I'm one of those owners who will say he won't hurt you, but that's me being honest. He won't. HOWEVER my dog is never off the lead when we are out in public areas where children are about.
I own a German Shepherd, so he looks a lot scarier that is really is. But my issue is with those dog owners who let the dos run off the lead and they come up to my dog and pick a fight. My dog's that much of a coward he'll turn the other way, but the other dogs don't know that, so they'll keep at him.

I'm the one who gets the abuse and dirty looks when my dog does bark back, my argument is he's on the lad, yours isn't. One of these days I'd be tempted to let him off the lead just to see the other owners faces, just as shame my dog (bug as he is) would still run the other bloomin way!

SNAP. Mine is a German Shepherd too. and a BIG one at that..... But like yours at times he can be a bit of a wimp, he actually ran away from a cat the other day.. (But it was a BIG Cat in all fairness and they can be vicious bl00dy animals !! :rotfl:).... Not something I'd like to let people know, as far as everyone who comes to our house is concerned (Friends and family excluded) he's a vicious man eater :rotfl::rotfl:.

I too hate it when dogs off the leads come running up to him and start sniffing around and barking at him but unlike you I have (On the very odd occasion where the was really being pestered) in the past just let go of the lead and let him "do his thing" much to the other dog owners shock!! My view. you ain't controlling your dog and mine is under threat ! I was actually told this on numerous occasions by different Vets.... if your dog is being pestered or attacked DO NOT try and keep hold of the lead. you have to let them have the freedom to either defend themselves or run away and also by holding onto the lead you're putting yourself in harms way if the other dog is vicious..

BigAl94

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

I have (On the very odd occasion where the was really being pestered) in the past just let go of the lead and let him "do his thing" much to the other dog owners shock!! My view. you ain't controlling your dog and mine is under threat ! I was actually told this on numerous occasions by different Vets.... if your dog is being pestered or attacked DO NOT try and keep hold of the lead. you have to let them have the freedom to either defend themselves or run away and also by holding onto the lead you're putting yourself in harms way if the other dog is vicious..

What a stupid, irresponsible (and illegal) thing to do.


Do you have any consideration for other members of the public, ie children, the elderly who could be injured when knocked over by a dog running at full tilt?


I have witnessed this happening and it is you - the owner - who would be charged with failing to keep a dog under control.

yorkshire_lass_3

I was at Stormont one afternoon and although I didn't see the incident, I saw an injured, very bloody dog being lifted into a vehicle on the road up to Parliament building. Unfortunately the dog appeared to have been hit by a car, I also feel sorry for the car driver. As I say, I didn't witness the incident but saw the aftermath and obviously unpleasant for all concerned. Hoping the dog made a full recovery.

warmhands.coldheart

BigAl94 wrote: »

What a stupid, irresponsible (and illegal) thing to do.


Do you have any consideration for other members of the public, ie children, the elderly who could be injured when knocked over by a dog running at full tilt?


I have witnessed this happening and it is you - the owner - who would be charged with failing to keep a dog under control.

WRONG !! READ THE POST..

If I have my dog "on the lead" (Which he is ALL THE TIME when I am out in public) and another dog runs up to it and starts pestering it, I am actually well within my rights to let him go to either defend himself or run away..... As I said, you are putting yourself in danger by trying to intervene between two dogs fighting.... It is actually the other person who has no control of their dog and it is them that is liable !!

And Believe it or not....... It is NOT illegal to let your dog roam off the lead in public nor is it compulsory to have them on a lead even in the parks or public places where they say dogs must be kept on leads, it is actually unenforceable as it is a "Public space" and to enforce it would take the local council to pass a bylaw or new regulation specifically on this........ Something they have never done!! It is only a problem if they bite someone or Foul and you don't pick it up... Dog Fouling comes under Littering so that why it's an offence....... (This is straight from the mouth of a person working in the leisure services of Belfast City Council)

lazer

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

WRONG !! READ THE POST..

If I have my dog "on the lead" (Which he is ALL THE TIME when I am out in public) and another dog runs up to it and starts pestering it, I am actually well within my rights to let him go to either defend himself or run away..... As I said, you are putting yourself in danger by trying to intervene between two dogs fighting.... It is actually the other person who has no control of their dog and it is them that is liable !!

And Believe it or not....... It is NOT illegal to let your dog roam off the lead in public nor is it compulsory to have them on a lead even in the parks or public places where they say dogs must be kept on leads, it is actually unenforceable as it is a "Public space" and to enforce it would take the local council to pass a bylaw or new regulation specifically on this........ Something they have never done!! It is only a problem if they bite someone or Foul and you don't pick it up... Dog Fouling comes under Littering so that why it's an offence....... (This is straight from the mouth of a person working in the leisure services of Belfast City Council)

Actually they have in some places
http://www.downdc.gov.uk/Documents/Dog-Control-Orders/Dog-Control-Order-2012---Leads.aspx

warmhands.coldheart

lazer wrote: »

Actually they have in some places
http://www.downdc.gov.uk/Documents/Dog-Control-Orders/Dog-Control-Order-2012---Leads.aspx

Sorry, was referring in this case to Belfast City Council. (I know there is life outside of Belfast !!)

I'm all for it personally.

Just on that, I wonder how all these "Local" orders will be applied when the "Super" councils are formed. i.e if one council has an order like this and the one it is merging with doesn't, does it or doesn't it apply any longer...... No doubt this will all have been thought out already !!!!

Mistral001

I used have a dog and found if you remember that not everybody you meet is a dog lover like myself, you will never have problems. So if there is a chance that your dog might frighten someone or even make someone uncomfortable in a public space, then make sure that they don't. That usually means a lead if your dog is not trained never to go away from your heal no matter how much it is provoked. Also it means that they behave when on a lead as well.

moonpie

yorkshire_lass wrote: »

I was at Stormont one afternoon and although I didn't see the incident, I saw an injured, very bloody dog being lifted into a vehicle on the road up to Parliament building. Unfortunately the dog appeared to have been hit by a car, I also feel sorry for the car driver. As I say, I didn't witness the incident but saw the aftermath and obviously unpleasant for all concerned. Hoping the dog made a full recovery.

Seconded.

I work in the estate and I am glad to hear they have introduced this, though I have doubts as to how they will enforce it. I feel very sorry for the dogs that have such stupid owners who call them when they're on the other side of the road, or, and I have actually seen this, use one of those throwing implements to fire the ball as far across the road as they can. It sometimes seems they're trying to get rid of the dog.

BigAl94

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

WRONG !! READ THE POST..

If I have my dog "on the lead" (Which he is ALL THE TIME when I am out in public) and another dog runs up to it and starts pestering it, I am actually well within my rights to let him go to either defend himself or run away..... As I said, you are putting yourself in danger by trying to intervene between two dogs fighting.... It is actually the other person who has no control of their dog and it is them that is liable !!

And Believe it or not....... It is NOT illegal to let your dog roam off the lead in public nor is it compulsory to have them on a lead even in the parks or public places where they say dogs must be kept on leads, it is actually unenforceable as it is a "Public space" and to enforce it would take the local council to pass a bylaw or new regulation specifically on this........ Something they have never done!! It is only a problem if they bite someone or Foul and you don't pick it up... Dog Fouling comes under Littering so that why it's an offence....... (This is straight from the mouth of a person working in the leisure services of Belfast City Council)

If you take the time to read here http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/controlling-your-dog-in-public you will find that there are potentially heavy penalties for a dog owner should a person be seriously injured in the sort of circumstances I referred to. The dog doesn't have to bite. Also as you point out penalties for any dog owner whose dog attacks another dog

beautifullybroken

I'm sick and tired of snidey comments from the general public informing me that its wrong of me being on a beach and having a small dog on an extendable lead. This is what works for us and its none of anyone else's business i feel its wrong for others to comment on it.

It's all down to personal choice, i would not let my dog off the lead and i think those that do should train the dogs to leave people and other dogs alone. I carry dog treats in my pocket to reward my dog not others as we walk along the beach but the amount of dogs that think its ok to jump up on me and stick their snout into my pocket and steal is unbelievable.