NCP got Debt Collectors involved before we had the chance to appeal POPLA

samin999

Many thanks guys! I really appreciate your help. I will make the changes.

Coupon-mad

You need to send the POPLA appeal urgently with the covering note explaining why the POPLA appeal is late. And it needs to come from the person who got the rejection letter (not a third party relative). So if your wife got the letter then the appeal is written by your wife, as is the covering letter.

Too much time is still being wasted this week and soon you'll be into another week.

Just submit the thing online to POPLA now, today, putting together a POPLA appeal from the 'How to win at POPLA' link in the NEWBIES thread. Or is it was a railway car park find one by searching 'NCP railway POPLA' as keywords. Don't write your own about 'what happened' as it would lose. Ours win 100% of the time if POPLA allow it late.

Don't post a draft here, no time, and please don't waste any time on an already (probably) fatally late POPLA appeal they will almost certainly not consider. Never mind, NCP don't do court so even if POPLA kick it out it's no biggie. Hope I am wrong but we've seen this before and POPLA refuse, routinely, based on date and don't read the reasons - I think they've given you false hope. Give it a go TODAY anyway but if not then you'd be in ignore mode with junk mail for a year from debt collectors - so what, already discussed to death on every other thread. Just saying it as I see it, hope POPLA do consider it but hurry up!

samin999

Thanks Coupon-mad, should I change the wording on the covering letter so it shows its my mother writing it?

Also I can't seem to find any letters for POPLA written for railway car park stations. any you know of off the top of your head?

prjohnsonnn10

1 - I have read of many instances on these forums rcently now where NCP have 'not responded'to initial appeal letters sent and are plainly just passing cases straight to DRP

2 - dont waste time complaining to BPA - they wont do anything

3 - NCP wont respond to you and DRP wont reply to any details of your case. They just ''auto issue'' more computer generated chasing letters.

......... i have 3 tickets from NCP at railway car parks and in EACH case they didnt reply to me and i got DRP letters sent to me in each case. Ofc ourse NCP know they are breaching the BPA CoP guidliens but they wont respond to you.

In your letter to DRP i guess you should just cite that GPEOL and alos that on railway land their is NO RK liability if yoiu are able to do that on behalf of the RK and NOT the driver.

Do what i do....send a Personal Costs Noticfication (your own PCN) to DRP AND NCP for GBP 25 for the costs and incoinvenience of responding to their unenforceable invoice and state that each addl letter received will incutr a furtehr GBP 25 each time you have to respond. On this basisi I am instigating the recoivery of GP 100 from DRP and NCP as we speak for the costs and time spent by me responding to their !nvoices'.

samin999

prjohnsonnn10 wrote: »

Do what i do....send a Personal Costs Noticfication (your own PCN) to DRP AND NCP for GBP 25 for the costs and incoinvenience of responding to their unenforceable invoice and state that each addl letter received will incutr a furtehr GBP 25 each time you have to respond. On this basisi I am instigating the recoivery of GP 100 from DRP and NCP as we speak for the costs and time spent by me responding to their !nvoices'.

Thanks for your help. Do you receive any letters back regarding your own Personal costs notification from NCP or Debt Collectors or do they simply just ignore it?

Coupon-mad

samin999 wrote: »

Thanks Coupon-mad, should I change the wording on the covering letter so it shows its my mother writing it?

Also I can't seem to find any letters for POPLA written for railway car park stations. any you know of off the top of your head?

Presumably you've now found one by searching this forum for something like 'POPLA railway' as keywords? You are already late and should have sent this last week.

samin999

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Presumably you've now found one by searching this forum for something like 'POPLA railway' as keywords? You are already late and should have sent this last week.

It was sent last week and now just awaiting a reply from POPLA. I will let you guys know what the out come is once I receive a reply.

Many thanks.

samin999

Okay so Coupon-mad you were correct. POPLA have rejected the appeal I made due to the reasons I gave and simply said it was late. We have had DRP send a second bunch of letters asking for the sum or threatening to take us to court. What is now the best solution?

stluke023

These oppurtunities should not be thrown away for any one else reading this thread.
There is still no legal claim approved by any court so tell the debt collectors that , and advise them to talk to NP carparks (did u say)
It might be worth trying insisting to POPLA again but my experiences they are un flexible
'appeals@popla.org.uk'

The next info is this thread

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=89805

It is with another operator (the worst)

Herzlos

Wait for the court pack, and respond to it. Point out that there is an independent appeals board (POPLA) which you are willing to take but have been denied by the PPC, and recommend the adjudication before wasting court time. They'll then likely re-refer you to POPLA and you've won it.

Alternatively, there's still no registered keeper liability, so they don't have any actual grounds for court.