Parking in Disabled Bay

The_Deep

fisherjim wrote: »

Unfortunately Department of Transport legislation allows only one badge to be issued per person for personal use.

The Law at one time only allowed people of opposite sexes to marry each other, but laws can be changed.

Iceweasel

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Their rules obviously prevent you from going out with your daughter in the manner you outline. I would bring that to their attention and threaten legal action against them should they persist.
Get the sheltered housing group to intervene and point out the inflexibility of their PPC rules when elderly people are involved.

Some idiot who has no need of a BB themselves, nor any relative with one, thought up this rubbish.

A resident sticker for the sheltered housing parking would surely inform everyone who needs to know that the owner/driver deserves/requires extra consideration.

I feel that this grossly unfair discrimination is the point which requires max publicity, irrespective of any other action taken.

The rules are prohibiting any resident with a blue badge from taking the BB with them (as required) when they travel with a friend or relative.

Rather than trying to get 2 BBs I would be raising hell to get this discrimination stopped.

The_Deep

You have summed the situation in a nutshell iceweasel. This is far more important than !!!!!!ing about with Popla.

Stroma

Yes , but its stupid just relying on one avenue to get this cancelled, for example would you go to a court with just one argument and hope to win? I find Popla not fit for purpose, but its there, use it as a way to get this finished with.

Iceweasel

Stroma wrote: »

Yes , but its stupid just relying on one avenue to get this cancelled, for example would you go to a court with just one argument and hope to win? I find Popla not fit for purpose, but its there, use it as a way to get this finished with.

Quite right - I agree.

I was meaning that the OP needs to complain to the admin of the housing complex, MP, local councilors, local media -newspapers and radio, as well as use the POPLA appeal system, if - more when - any initial appeal to the PPC is rejected.

Guys_Dad

The_Deep wrote: »

OP - please don't take the advice to ignore POPLA - that is AWFUL advice.

I have to disagree, this is an Arbitration service set up by the parking industry, paid for by the Parking industry for the parking industry, It has no brief to decide decisions equably, it does not even take the law into accountwhen making its decisions, it is there solely to protect the Parking industry's interests as best it can.

It findings have no basis in law, it pays no heed to mitigation and is accountable only to its paymasters.

Hot Bring says that you are guaranteed a win at Popla, he is right, but a win at Popla is worth very little. The only way to get these PPCs off everyones' back is to fight them.

Whispering "GPOL" to Popla is not fighting them, it is surrender ing to them, allowing the to continue to rip of the great unwashed who give in to their demands, and giving them legitimacy. If everyone were to ignore Popla and instead write to their M.P., Trading Standards, local papers, retails outlets. landowners, Popla would only deal with mitigation and refuse every appeal, it would become a laughing stock.

Hot Bring you seem to have a poor understanding of the way these boards work. Of course I give only one side of the coin, it is for others who have different opinions to give another. If you do not agree with me, debate with me, do not try to censor me.

I think the OP needs to know the difference between your posts and some others.

You, by your own admission, are on a mission to eradicate PPC overcharging. OP wants the monkey off their back and to save their money.

Yours is an excellent aim, but please do not give advice that may cost the OP money and expose them to court action.

You are coming across like an army general who is prepared to accept casualties from expendables in pursuit of your bigger picture. In this example, the OPs are your expendables.

This does not help the individual who simply wants a way out or their predicament.

The_Deep

Yours is an excellent aim, but please do not give advice that may cost the OP money and expose them to court action.

I agree that the average person just wants a quick fix, and there are plenty of you here only too willing to supply it, but others may want more than that, they may want their day in court.

If I received a ticket for an overstay in Asda I would bat it away at Popla. However, if one of my tenants was harassed by a PPC then I would do everything in my power to get that operator in front of a Judge for trespass.

As for not giving advice which may not always be without risk, I think that you, and you cohorts, do no favours to landowners by advising them to appeal to Popla when they are legally parked in their own spaces.

Redx

in this case there are 2 issues

the problem here could have occurred before this parking ticket , at any time since it was issued and also any repeat performance in the future

so in my opinion (as a BB holder) it needs fighting on both counts and so the OP may be inclined to go to popla for getting rid of this actual ticket BUT should still take action to prevent any FUTURE problem as it could easily recur

there is no way anyone can get 2 blue badges so no idea how that was even brought up !

the PPC or landowner etc should put her reg on a whitelist exempting it completely, becasue as it stands she cannot use her BB to go out on her own business because its protecting her vehicle from getting a ticket 24/7 , so she is not being allowed the use intended of it

The_Deep

This case is different from most, the OP only has one BB which she needs to display on more that one car. If she cannot get a second badge, why cannot she photocopy her BB and place it on the car left in her parking spot. She can then faff around with a Popla appeal if she wishes, and in the meantime kick some serious !!!!.

Redx

the problem here seems to be that she is parking in a disabled bay on private land owned by somebody else

you would have thought the management company would have a system that gave these residents a parking permit , possibly having a system where a BB permit holder would have a blue permit , and a different colour for none BB holders, it is not up to the BB holder to obtain a badge from social services , pay for it, then have to display it 24/7/365 on that car to stop it being ticketed, its provided for that person to use on public roads etc in accordance with the t+c in the booklet she gets with it when its issued

clearly nobody has thought this through at the management company or at the PPC , so the ticketing will continue if that valid badge is not displayed on a car parked in a space with a wheelchair motif

but it seems this may be the first time its happened and has now highlighted the problem which the OP needs to resolve permanently no matter what is done in this one case

so I still believe it needs fighting on both fronts to prevent a repeat