Pinch Collars-help get them banned

moggymutt

There is a new fb group Banning Of Pinch Collars https://www.facebook.com/groups/377732549034419/
Pinch Collars are so cruel I can't believe that they are actually legal.
Please share this fb page with as many people as you can- these evil barbaric things need to be made illegal.

Katiehound

Sorry, what's a pinch collar when it's at home? That's a new term for me.

Fosterdog

Katiehound wrote: »

Sorry, what's a pinch collar when it's at home? That's a new term for me.

They are usually called prong collars, only been used in the UK for the last few years but have been in the US for a long time.

They are basically a chain type collar but each link has two metal prongs. When relaxed the prongs lay horizontally across the skin causing little to no pain/discomfort. When tightened like a choke chain the prongs turn vertical and stick into the neck causing pain and discomfort.

They really are barbaric, and the damage and injuries they can cause to the dogs neck is horrific.

djdust

That's really not true and I've done a lot of reading up on this matter. Dogs are not being "tortured" by these devices and if used correctly they don't cause any injury at all. Do a bit more research folks..

Fosterdog

I've also done a lot of reading up and research on them and still conclude that they are dangerous.

They are an excuse for people to be lazy with training and taking the easy option instead of putting in time, effort and patience on positive and reward based training. Maybe they don't cause as much damage depending on how they are used but there are too many people who don't know how to use them and do cause serious damage to the dogs. If something could ever do the damage that they can cause then they have no place being put around a dogs neck.

People have kept and trained dogs for hundreds of years without the need for prong collars so I don't see why they could possibly be needed now.

Edited for links
This shows what the collars look like and explains why they don't work
http://www.bathcatsanddogshome.org.uk/pet_care/dogs_and_puppies/pinch_prong_shock_and_choke_why_aversive_training_collars_dont_work/

Another site explaining how bad they are and the harm they do, it also shows how it sits on the dogs neck
http://www.thedogtrainingsecret.com/blog/weaning-dog-compulsion-dog-training-collars/

These two show graphic images of the damage to dogs necks
http://www.pawsofmyheartrescue.com/cruel.html
http://www.austindogzone.com/author/admin/

Person_one

djdust wrote: »

That's really not true and I've done a lot of reading up on this matter. Dogs are not being "tortured" by these devices and if used correctly they don't cause any injury at all. Do a bit more research folks..

They do cause pain though, right? Otherwise what would be the point of them?

Why would any right minded person want to hurt their dog?

gettingready

Anything can be a weapon in the wrong hands and prong collars are nto exception.

But in the right hands they will do no harm.

Problem is that as with anything "banned" - very few people know/will learn how to use them correctly.

calicocat

Fosterdog wrote: »

I've also done a lot of reading up and research on them and still conclude that they are dangerous.

They are an excuse for people to be lazy with training and taking the easy option instead of putting in time, effort and patience on positive and reward based training. Maybe they don't cause as much damage depending on how they are used but there are too many people who don't know how to use them and do cause serious damage to the dogs. If something could ever do the damage that they can cause then they have no place being put around a dogs neck.

People have kept and trained dogs for hundreds of years without the need for prong collars so I don't see why they could possibly be needed now.

Edited for links
This shows what the collars look like and explains why they don't work
http://www.bathcatsanddogshome.org.uk/pet_care/dogs_and_puppies/pinch_prong_shock_and_choke_why_aversive_training_collars_dont_work/

Another site explaining how bad they are and the harm they do, it also shows how it sits on the dogs neck
http://www.thedogtrainingsecret.com/blog/weaning-dog-compulsion-dog-training-collars/

These two show graphic images of the damage to dogs necks
http://www.pawsofmyheartrescue.com/cruel.html
http://www.austindogzone.com/author/admin/

I hadn't heard of these before.

Having looked at the links, I think if someone had that little a repore with their animal to need to use one of those that it is possible there is something wrong with the human

catkins

gettingready wrote: »

Anything can be a weapon in the wrong hands and prong collars are nto exception.

But in the right hands they will do no harm.

Problem is that as with anything "banned" - very few people know/will learn how to use them correctly.

djdust wrote: »

That's really not true and I've done a lot of reading up on this matter. Dogs are not being "tortured" by these devices and if used correctly they don't cause any injury at all. Do a bit more research folks..

Maybe "in the right hands" they cause no pain or injury but what really is the point of them?


We don't need them, there are plenty of ordinary harmless collars on the market and if even 1 dog has been injured by one then that is wrong.


I will be signing as I just don't see the point of them

skintandscared_2

Sorry but they look horrific and I could no sooner put that on my pup than wear it myself. Can't believe it's even legal.

Adora-Bell-Dearheart

I'm appalled by these collars, and cannot believe someone would come up with sucjh an item.