Theatening call from landolord

sm9ai

As said, put your belongings in storage (big yellow box company type firms) and haggle a deal with a b and b or stay with friends for a couple of weeks.

thelawnet

dannyboycey wrote: »

You've had your notice

Probably not, I think this thread is not going anywhere until it is established exactly what form the 'notice' took, when it was received, and whether it is valid. Until then, it's really not possible to say whether he has had notice or not, so this discussion of how he should "get out now" is totally premature.

If I were the landlord, I would be pretty P'd off if I came back after that date to find you still there. I doubt I could restrain myself from physically kicking the door in of a tennant that did that, as the legal route takes so long.

That would be extremely foolish, and you would get in trouble with the police or, worse, a violent tenant causing you serious injury.

You're an idiot if you risk serious injury and a criminal record just because you don't want to wait a few weeks to follow the law.

Be aware though, that if you squat, you will get into all kinds of trouble when trying to rent/buy again.

Nonsense, it would not affect your buying a house in the slightest. And there's no reason why it should affect renting either, unless you passed the landlord's details along.

barnaby-bear

thelawnet wrote: »

Nonsense: the way he describes it, there are two chances the landlord has issued valid s21 notice, slim and none, and slim just left town.

Given that there is almost certainly no valid notice, he has no reason to leave, and certainly not to put all his possessions in storage for 2 weeks. Find out that first.

For instance, the OP is very vague about the amount of notice that was given - it must legally be two months, to end on the last day of the period. If it wasn't, why should he leave????

Yes technically there are ways he can stay.

BUT he wants to rent somewhere else and needs stuff like REFERENCES etc, and his DEPOSIT BACK..... and if valid notice given then LIABLE for all eviction costs...

Regardless of what he can technically do - agreeing to go and bargaining with this for getting his deposit back may be the better option for him especially if he needs references, if the landlord holds back the deposit it can take a very long time and even if morally right only get a fraciton of it back via small claims (see EL thread)....

Sometimes you maybe right in principle but cutting off nose to spite face a waste of time. Better to bragain and take deposit and save some good feeling, spend deposit on two week holiday and have shiny references for new rentals than stay 2 weeks on technicality, lose deposit and fight tooth and nail to claw it back, lots of bad feeling and potential problems renting owing to bad tenant references.....

olly300

thelawnet wrote: »

For instance, the OP is very vague about the amount of notice that was given - it must legally be two months, to end on the last day of the period. If it wasn't, why should he leave????

The OP has stated that the LL contacted him via email two months before the end of the contract and stated the tenancy will not be renewed. Therefore the OP was given legal written notice to quit.

Also has the OP has not had problems with the LL so there is no reason to create problems where they don't exist. If the OP had had problems with the LL then they may have received different advice from other posters.

Also the OP shouldn't expect their deposit back for up to a month. However they should ensure they get the place checked out with the LL before the new people move in and take the meter readings. Otherwise they should write to the LL with the address to send the deposit to, point out no inspection took place in their presence and the place was occupied the next day.

barnaby-bear

thelawnet wrote: »

Nonsense, it would not affect your buying a house in the slightest. And there's no reason why it should affect renting either, unless you passed the landlord's details along.

Because if proceedings to get you out cost money they stick things like CCJs and warnings and charges on your credit history....

thelawnet

xycom1 wrote: »

Regardless of what the landlord is supposed to be doing (i.e. to comply with the law) - what is the situation for this poor tenant if he returns to the property and finds all his belongings on the street/dustbin and the locks have been changed? What is the law going to do about that?

http://www.bathnes.gov.uk/BathNES/Housing/privatehousing/privatetenantsadvicesupport/HarassmentandIllegalEviction.htm

barnaby-bear

olly300 wrote: »

The OP has stated that the LL contacted him via email two months before the end of the contract and stated the tenancy will not be renewed. Therefore the OP was given legal written notice to quit.

Technically insufficient unless advanced s21 hidden in original agreement.

However in the spirit of issue, they did give you adequate notice to find elsewhere.

silvercar

I would tell your landlord that you have found somewhere to move to, that you have signed an agreement (show this) but unfortunately the start date leaves a 2 week gap. You would therefore very much like to extend your stay by 2 weeks.

As you can now demonstrate that you have no intention of staying indefinitely and you have had no previous problems with the landlord, you may very well be allowed to stay. After all, its not like they have new tenants moving in, just people to look after the place. Offer to allow prospective buyers to view if necessary.

grade15

I agree with silvercar..I was in the same situation but the LL didn't have ppl moving in to sell the house.. they just wanted to get rid of us..cos near the end of our stay, lots of things needed repair!!! so LL gave us the line, want to sell it..but actually didn't sell it..it was rented out again afterwards!!
but i pleaded for extra 2 wks to get into a new place..and lucky it was accepted..

so probably have a kind word with the Lady LL and say, it will be in tiptop shape when views come around to look at the place! sort of be the ppl who are moving in to sell it..
:dance:

thelawnet

barnaby-bear wrote: »

Because if proceedings to get you out cost money they stick things like CCJs and warnings and charges on your credit history....

Firstly, if there is no valid notice he would not win in court.

Secondly, the only thing that can go on a credit record is a CCJ. No such thing as "warnings and charges".

Thirdly, you only get a CCJ if you lose the case, and then fail to pay for thirty days. Losing a court case does not get you a CCJ. I do wish people would not imply that.