Cannot sell house due to Hoarder next door

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Ask the neighbour if he wants to buy?

johnbusby

Isn't it up to the elderly couple to live how they please - after all its their house so if they want to fill it with a load of rubbish its up to them (providing there are no overwhelming public health concerns)

For those suggesting contacting all manner of government bodies, I think this is fine if its being done out a duty of care to the mental and physical well-being of the elderly neighbours. If its being used as a stick to beat the couple with and try and bully them into living their live the way the OP would like then its immoral.

Nobody has a god given right to make money out of property - all manor of things can happen during purchase and sale, including flooding or recession, which drastically effect the price and are nobodies fault. Its the risk you take when you decide to speculate on property. I think the OP has to suck it up and either sell at a loss or rent it out and wait for the couple to pass on or be taken into care - but then who knows who will buy the house after that...

Davesnave

johnbusby wrote: »

Isn't it up to the elderly couple to live how they please - after all its their house so if they want to fill it with a load of rubbish its up to them (providing there are no overwhelming public health concerns..

If you've been following the thread, you will see there are real concerns and a worsening situation. At first it wasn't clear, but now I think it is.

It's still up to the 'authorities' to decide what amount of intervention is appropriate, not any of us here, so in a sense the motive is irrelevant.

moneyistooshorttomention

It must be so nice to never have had a neighbour affect YOUR house and/or its subsequent sale at all.:cool: OP is just trying to stop the neighbours doing something that is impacting negatively on her. It doesn't sound at all like she is trying to "lay down the law" as to how they are to live within their own house and is just trying to stop them affecting HER life.

For those of us who have been in that position though, it's a totally different matter and we can sympathise with it.

shot_down_in_flames

Davesnave wrote: »

Why are you still here? It's gone half past ten and if it were me I'd have some answers from those in the departments you mention, though I realise that real action may take much longer as jackyann (I believe) said earlier.

As you've said, it's an accident waiting to happen and there's an element of real urgency being revealed by your posts now. Get that across to those who can act.

Make it clear that you'll follow up everything you say to both depts in writing, so that there's a paper trail. No one wants a tragedy on their hands, with the hard evidence that alerts were sounded and nothing done.

Hi Dave - I was still here as you state - as my husband was dealing with it today!
As a result the Fire service have logged our concerns but advised to ring Social services which we have done.
All has been logged with SS who are going to pass this on to their relevant team - it seemed important to know their date of birth! How would we know that? however a second call back now purely asking if we had advised the occupants that we were notifying SS.
I thank you for your constructive efforts to help as much of what you have said is to the point and helpfull esp the bit about backing it up in writing.

shot_down_in_flames

Davesnave wrote: »

If you've been following the thread, you will see there are real concerns and a worsening situation. At first it wasn't clear, but now I think it is.

It's still up to the 'authorities' to decide what amount of intervention is appropriate, not any of us here, so in a sense the motive is irrelevant.

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absolutely! You are spot on!
Yes - its not just about me wingeing about the money I may lose tho obviously that is in the equation - just as if you johnbusby were in my shoes Im sure the boot would be on your other foot! Tho of course you wouldnt have arrived there in the first place!

shot_down_in_flames

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

It must be so nice to never have had a neighbour affect YOUR house and/or its subsequent sale at all.:cool: OP is just trying to stop the neighbours doing something that is impacting negatively on her. It doesn't sound at all like she is trying to "lay down the law" as to how they are to live within their own house and is just trying to stop them affecting HER life.

For those of us who have been in that position though, it's a totally different matter and we can sympathise with it.

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Thank you Money! Perfect and so true!!
I actually AM concerned for these elderly people apart from my own self centred interests as some would consider - given certain posts where they belive I am purely interested in monetory gain
- ( not by you).
I have not aggravated not harrassed as they are elderly and ill!
Purely tried to offer constructive help at our time and expense where necessary to save me facing a negative sale, the risk of my own property burning down, the possible enhancement of their own lives as we DO CARE!
All I asked for was constructive advice / help to tackle this problem and have received many constructive replies thank you - not to be told (by others) - you made a mistake , dont speculate, accept your loss, move on, in other words (be like me and never achieve anything - which is it seems to suggest - by others i mean!)

jackyann

Thanks for updating us OP.
This is a huge forum, and there are a number of people who don't read posts properly or who always see things through their own prism.
Just take notice of those who are helpful & ignore those who aren't!

Personally I thought your posts contained both concerns - which is where most of us would sit!
Don't worry about being asked for date of birth - it's useful for statutory services - and you might know it for lots of reasons. Sounds like an assessment will now be done - how helpful it will be is unknown. Social Services may feel obliged to try the avenues you have already gone down - because they have to record that they have done so - it depends on what they find (and with mental illness &/or dementia, the way people present themselves can change so much day-to-day)
I suggest you keep a simple written log of contacts & incidents with your neighbours. It may be helpful for Social Services.

I do hope this gets resolved in the time frame you need.

shot_down_in_flames

jackyann wrote: »

Thanks for updating us OP.
This is a huge forum, and there are a number of people who don't read posts properly or who always see things through their own prism.
Just take notice of those who are helpful & ignore those who aren't!

Personally I thought your posts contained both concerns - which is where most of us would sit!
Don't worry about being asked for date of birth - it's useful for statutory services - and you might know it for lots of reasons. Sounds like an assessment will now be done - how helpful it will be is unknown. Social Services may feel obliged to try the avenues you have already gone down - because they have to record that they have done so - it depends on what they find (and with mental illness &/or dementia, the way people present themselves can change so much day-to-day)
I suggest you keep a simple written log of contacts & incidents with your neighbours. It may be helpful for Social Services.

I do hope this gets resolved in the time frame you need.

Thanks for that Jackyann,
Yet another call from SS today asking the same question - had we informed the neighbours about involving them? or did we want SS to contact them instead as apparently they cannot cold call so we agreed on the latter as it seems less likely to be taken the wrong way and not so provocative. Incidentally my husband spoke to a neighbour 2 doors down who sees this couple every week at church and he was shocked that they had been living in such appalling conditions with no basic facilities. He said if he had known the extent he would taken this same action himself!

DaftyDuck

I wonder if the church side of things could be of more help to them? If there's an active church community with which they are involved, there might be gentle help for them from that. A word with the vicar or church warden might be a start. Not my area of expertise, I'm afraid.