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Planning Appeal Dismissed - what to do now????

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  • I don't think you can argue that uPVC will be longer lasting. My wooden sash windows have been in since the house was built over 100 years ago. I doubt most uPVC would last 10-20!!

    UPVC should last a minimum of 25 years. Wooden windows require regular maintenance such as painting. This is costly owing to having to erect scaffolding every 5 years.
  • DRP
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    I don't think you can argue that uPVC will be longer lasting. My wooden sash windows have been in since the house was built over 100 years ago. I doubt most uPVC would last 10-20!!

    perhaps i should have clarified that i meant maintenance-free for longer...

    i think things have changed in the last 50 years - people have less time to do work on their house and H&S and red-tape means it costs more to get professionals in... for that reason maintenance-free windows are beneficial imo.
  • DRP wrote: »
    perhaps i should have clarified that i meant maintenance-free for longer...

    i think things have changed in the last 50 years - people have less time to do work on their house and H&S and red-tape means it costs more to get professionals in... for that reason maintenance-free windows are beneficial imo.

    Yes - when the building was built, I imaging men with very long ladders would have painted the windows (with good quality leaded paint of course). The height of the building would make this completely illegal today.
  • katejo
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    Yes - when the building was built, I imaging men with very long ladders would have painted the windows (with good quality leaded paint of course). The height of the building would make this completely illegal today.

    When I had my wooden sashes replaced, my dad put his own tower scaffolding up for me and I painted the windows myself! It saved me a bit.
  • cattie
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    I feel for you. I've lived in 2 different conservation areas so know how annoying it can be when reasonable requests are turned down for what appears no good reason.

    My previous house was in a conservation area & new residents were issued with a booklet outlining what type & style of replacement windows were to be chosen if installing double glazing. The booklet also illustrated the style of wooden doors that would be acceptable.

    I'd noticed that a few of the neighbours along the street didn't have windows that conformed & they had horrible white uvpc doors that really spoilt the look of the period cottage houses, but when I had new windows installed I used a local independent company who were familiar with the conservation requirements & windows were fitted that matched the originals in style.

    A couple of years later a house further down the road & actually owned by the local council had new windows & doors installed. Horrid modern looking frames & one of the nasty white doors.

    There was much anger amongst the other owners in the Road at a residents meeting & pressure was then put on the council for blatantly flouting their own conservation laws. The residents association was fighting to get the council to change the windows & doors to those that were approved & closely imitated the original windows & doors the properties would have been built with. The council have ignored all pleas & this house that they own is now the one ugly duckling that sticks out a mile in the row of houses it sits in. :(

    It makes me cross that they can come down so hard on owners who try their best to comply with the requirements of living in a conservation area, yet seem to feel that they themselves can do what they like & put in the nastiest & cheapest thing you can possibly buy. With the result that much of the charm of a property is completely taken away . How do they get away with it? :question:
    The bigger the bargain, the better I feel.

    I should mention that there's only one of me, don't confuse me with others of the same name.
  • leveller2911
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    I would also question the cost of the windows. A traditional Boxsash bay window 8 feet tall supplied and fitted shouldn't be anywhere near £8k....... I did one recently 8ft tall with a centre section 5ft wide and that was less than £5k fitted.

    At £8k each I think soneone is having a laugh..


    As you live in a Conservation area I don't think you will ever be allowed Upvc.
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