New User to MSE...Student Who's annoyed at Job market...

egoode

If you learnt about software development lifecycles and project management as part of your degree (and I'd be surprised if you didn't in some form) then I would think about also looking for Project Administrator and Programme/Project Management Office roles.

In some companies they can be admin type roles but in others you can get involved in the projects quite closely and it will give you a good overview of how new technologies and programmes are implemented from the original idea to hand over to ongoing support. It can involve working on infrastructure projects or software development and will mean you can get to network with lots of different IT areas which could help you find the area you are most interested in pursuing.

They roles generally don't require an IT degree but it does help if you have some knowledge of IT so you can understand the reports the Project Managers submit.

AndyHams_New

shop-to-drop wrote: »

The good cause would be 'himself and his future prospects'. An attitude like yours would probably see him festering on the dole and then back to call centres until retirement.

IT is very competitive not just within UK but also worldwide. Many UK companies IT support is based abroad in countries of cheap labor like India. Experience is the only thing that is going to set you above thousands of other Graduates so do whatever you can to gain the best experience you can get. Is moving for a job out of the question? Limiting yourself to one area is going to have a huge affect on your job prospects too.

Thank you you have a point and i appreciate what you are saying. I have a friend from online who is from India who now works as a IT professional in America After studying there at MIT university in the USA so your points are valid

At the moment it feels like i am stuck but i guess i have to keep researching and looking, Was offered a few months ago a job in Barcelona working the company who created Candy crush saga Games but never heard anything back from them when replied.

Guess i will make inquires

thanks again for your support

AndyHams_New

Idiophreak wrote: »

A few thoughts:

1) As buglawton said...are you sure your CV is doing the business...Being blunt, you're not showing the best spelling, punctuation etc on this thread - your CV needs to be faultless.

[1]. Thank you for your comments. My CV is flawless I have lapsed because of it being a forum in Grammar and spelling as it is the Internet and a place to talk. Just the recruitment team who are trying to fill a sales job quick are only attracted so far & Quite understandable how people think all my writings or communication could look the same, On how i reflect here but i being lazy here and not formal & Proofing my paragraphs or writing also, can assure you they are the same as a posting on a forum when it comes to offlical things like CV writing

2) You seem a bit confused about what you actually want to do...You enjoy programming and stuff, yet your career aspiration is to be 1st line support which is entry level at best. A lot of 1st line support is done by unskilled people reading from scripts or semi-trained people following a checklist. If you're applying for these, it's not surprising you're being told you're overqualified. You also say C++, Java and other front end programming...which confuses me...Or maybe you like networking or...

2,My Programming is more of a hobby level since the early 90's with HTML and PASCAL then moved to Java-scripting and Java and VB scripting in the days of 56k Modem era before broadband came around. Then i learn Unix on a terminal machine which is the first C coding and took off with it there for C programming, C++ ect

But thank you for input. I love networking and Activate Directiory domains and Lunix and building computers/P.c and networkng in terms of security on a whole WAN/LAN timezone. That sort of stuff. Jquery already know some of but learning more from lydia and a programmers forum

You need to work out the area you're interested and go for that. If you have Cisco and MS networking exams, looking for junior jobs in networking/infrastructure depts seems your best bet.

All areas as long as its IT Thanks...will do

If you'd rather do front end dev, you have to get up to speed with JQuery, Knockout, Angular, whatever else the cool front endies are writing these days and have that front and centre on your CV...Again, if your CV's as confused about your skills/areas of interest as this thread, it's not going to be doing you justice.

Jquery

3) You need to think about being prepared to relocate. A lot more jobs in the South East and having "willing to relocate" on your CV will open a lot of doors.

4) Modern IT runs on the basis of kaizen - continuous improvement. What are you doing this month to ensure your applications are stronger next month? You should be picking stuff up, learning it...doing an example...learning it again...sticking it on your CV. Look at job specs you're interested in. What skills do they want? Which don't you have? Learn these. eg A whole bunch of IT jobs (especially development) these days specify agile/scrum on their specs...You can read enough in a couple of hours to get by in an interview on the subject. Contribute to open source projects, network at hackathon events, town halls etc...There are more ways than ever to get yourself known in IT...you've just gotta put in the hours...

Much apprecated good solid advice thanks for your comments gave me alot to think about

theoretica

Clearly too late in your case, but I feel that it should probably be pointed out more to students the value of gaining relevant work experience during degrees. This could be encouragement to hunt for relevant holiday or part time jobs or set up personal projects. Some universities and courses do this, but I don't think all do.

In your case, I think you should reconsider relocation. You will greatly increase the number of jobs available to you and this is one of the few situations where I feel a payday loan might justify its existence to get you through the first month.

Cat2011

Could you try some online work to tide you over? Elance has a lot of computer-type work available. Worth checking out.

Bobster64

Not sure if anyone has suggested this but why not set up on your own? Gives you tons of freedom and "if you cant find a job then make one".

To start you could freelance your skills using something like odesk amd you never know you may end up with a full time job offer if you decide you want to go back into the job market plus with give you chance to build up your portfolio.

I couldn't find a job I liked after my daughter was born so started on own and now I'm travelling full time and currently in KL after spending 2 months in Thailand and Vietnam. If you need any help feel free to message me. I'm always looking for good developers or people with good ideas who need help. Oh and feel free to check out my blog which has some info on how we started. Www.anelliottabroad.com