New User to MSE...Student Who's annoyed at Job market...

buglawton

AndyHams_New wrote: »

Hi and thanks for link Ive actually found some good posts im hoping for some chances,

As for re location or moving good idea but flat broke No savings living with girlfriends parents & herself hence why have no car company I worked for finished January was agency work temp

But if I have any luck with them ive spotted ill owe you a few beers

Thanks again

Also, if you are as immobile as you say you re job-hunting, you ought to specify which town/village you live in, do you have rail links etc, would help people to advise you.

Anyway your original post was about jobs but do hang around MSE as it looks like you need to get your finances in order too. Bigger companies even credit check you as part of getting your references!

mattcanary

buglawton wrote: »

Also, if you are as immobile as you say you re job-hunting, you ought to specify which town/village you live in, do you have rail links etc, would help people to advise you.

Anyway your original post was about jobs but do hang around MSE as it looks like you need to get your finances in order too. Bigger companies even credit check you as part of getting your references!

May just not have any money, rather than having debts. There is a difference.

Takeaway_Addict

BillJones wrote: »

Yes, far better to be unemployed but "principled" than gaining experience for a few months while looking for paid work...

Can I ask, how much did you charge your school for yourtime and effort?

I suppose that that's different, of course...

Precisely.

AndyHams_New

buglawton wrote: »

Also, if you are as immobile as you say you re job-hunting, you ought to specify which town/village you live in, do you have rail links etc, would help people to advise you.

Anyway your original post was about jobs but do hang around MSE as it looks like you need to get your finances in order too. Bigger companies even credit check you as part of getting your references!

As stated before Skint no money and live on the Virgin west coast main line from Cheshire to Liverpool is 6.80 return a day or with Virgin trains only is 6.20 and the buses around my way wont travel to most villages plus if you mention you travel by bus you get laughed at these days by employers so Yer i do that look for places i can get too but my area near warring-ton is known mostly for shops and factories and retail parks such as Birch wood and Cockenhedge center. Most around this also are looking for apprenticeships But i do exactly what you say and look at areas

As for the Finance commment soon as i can get work i can put they Finances in order as someone said here you dont pay your loans until you are in full time work and earning 16k or so But i would love to get back soon as possible to it But it is a brilliant site in terms of learning what other people do on situations

AndyHams_New

mattcanary wrote: »

May just not have any money, rather than having debts. There is a difference.

Bit of both and hate it lots of debt hardly sleeping and just chained to computer looking for work sending off CV after CV after CV and ringing them later on to be told Generic Excuses of non acceptance or placed for lower sales jobs which lead career into loop of more sales jobs from recruitment firms thus making it harder for references in future years.

buglawton

If you gained a 2.1 Masters Degree in Computer IT and business, I would have expected it to include a little bit of self development along the lines of being organised and seeing the wood for the trees, in fact you ought to come across as quite mature for your age.
Certainly this is the impression you want to project when job hunting.

Also, living with GFs parents can be quite cheap, so you would acquire a car almost as soon as a (real) job offer comes. Are you abe to borrow a car for job interviews? In an area like yours you want to imply that you are car-mobile without question, to get over that type of employer prejudice.

I used to live in the NW and yes, jobs can be far between sometimes and employers can be a bit of a slave driver. But the lifestyle and quality of life can be great even at lower incomes, I found.

AndyHams_New

buglawton wrote: »

If you gained a 2.1 Masters Degree in Computer IT and business, I would have expected it to include a little bit of self development along the lines of being organised and seeing the wood for the trees, in fact you ought to come across as quite mature for your age.
Certainly this is the impression you want to project when job hunting.

Also, living with GFs parents can be quite cheap, so you would acquire a car almost as soon as a (real) job offer comes. Are you abe to borrow a car for job interviews? In an area like yours you want to imply that you are car-mobile without question, to get over that type of employer prejudice.

I used to live in the NW and yes, jobs can be far between sometimes and employers can be a bit of a slave driver. But the lifestyle and quality of life can be great even at lower incomes, I found.

Thanks for response yes i did personal Development and i know how i sound on here.

I have even before university courses such as HRH princes trust and duke of Ed awards before University but It's more hard now then ever and my head has been very mature, I had reservations at first in writing on here because of what people say or reply back.

I know in some of my posts i have come across as lustrous in attitude To the point i sound like a typical Student "Winging" about how the world is unfair But I am just using this forum to make a personal development on getting my goals right.Like someone said to keep a dairy & motivate myself Plus as stated i have stated i have worked since i was 16 years old, Only signed on twice in whole life which i hated and my family here don't drive also. only finished work over 8 weeks ago or so and been every day on indeed or cv library looking and sending off cover letters and CV for almost every job's and It roles out there. Had 2 responses for sales roles today which lead to interviews but will take the role of one if offered so i can sort out a car for myself and until i get were i want i suppose.

Thanks for your reply

Bantex_2

Why not just set up on your own. May not make much at first but could build up.

shop-to-drop

Southend1 wrote: »

No it's not better. All it would do for OP is show the world how little he values what he has to offer a company. If you're going to volunteer do it for a good cause e.g. A charity - that way you can look at it in terms of donating your labour for the cause rather than to line the shareholders pockets.

The good cause would be 'himself and his future prospects'. An attitude like yours would probably see him festering on the dole and then back to call centres until retirement.

IT is very competitive not just within UK but also worldwide. Many UK companies IT support is based abroad in countries of cheap labour like India. Experience is the only thing that is going to set you above thousands of other Graduates so do whatever you can to gain the best experience you can get. Is moving for a job out of the question? Limiting yourself to one area is going to have a huge affect on your job prospects too.

Idiophreak

A few thoughts:

1) As buglawton said...are you sure your CV is doing the business...Being blunt, you're not showing the best spelling, punctuation etc on this thread - your CV needs to be faultless.

2) You seem a bit confused about what you actually want to do...You enjoy programming and stuff, yet your career aspiration is to be 1st line support which is entry level at best. A lot of 1st line support is done by unskilled people reading from scripts or semi-trained people following a checklist. If you're applying for these, it's not surprising you're being told you're overqualified. You also say C++, Java and other front end programming...which confuses me...Or maybe you like networking or...

You need to work out the area you're interested and go for that. If you have Cisco and MS networking exams, looking for junior jobs in networking/infrastructure depts seems your best bet.

If you'd rather do front end dev, you have to get up to speed with JQuery, Knockout, Angular, whatever else the cool front endies are writing these days and have that front and centre on your CV...Again, if your CV's as confused about your skills/areas of interest as this thread, it's not going to be doing you justice.

3) You need to think about being prepared to relocate. A lot more jobs in the South East and having "willing to relocate" on your CV will open a lot of doors.

4) Modern IT runs on the basis of kaizen - continuous improvement. What are you doing this month to ensure your applications are stronger next month? You should be picking stuff up, learning it...doing an example...learning it again...sticking it on your CV. Look at job specs you're interested in. What skills do they want? Which don't you have? Learn these. eg A whole bunch of IT jobs (especially development) these days specify agile/scrum on their specs...You can read enough in a couple of hours to get by in an interview on the subject. Contribute to open source projects, network at hackathon events, town halls etc...There are more ways than ever to get yourself known in IT...you've just gotta put in the hours...