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  • Big_Graeme
    Big_Graeme Posts: 3,220 Forumite
    jj_5 wrote: »
    We'd be in debt, but with Scottish politicians in charge of removing that debt.

    And you have seen how they are going to do this? Oh I get it, the oil money...
  • Big_Graeme
    Big_Graeme Posts: 3,220 Forumite
    jj_5 wrote: »
    On servicing it, That's up to the politicians we elect after the vote and what their views are on the best way to service it.

    Ah, just vote yes and we'll sort it later, yeah good ruse that, I do hope people see right through that one :-D
  • Big_Graeme
    Big_Graeme Posts: 3,220 Forumite
    jj_5 wrote: »
    Yes Holyrood was given extra powers to mitigate the bedroom tax and I believe they used these powers.

    Only months after they were given them and there main plan of attack was do nowt and blame Westminster.
    jj_5 wrote: »
    91% of Scottish MP's voted against the bedroom tax. but we got it anyway :)

    And they had the ability to mitigate it, they chose to ignore it as long as they could, their choice. They elected to waste money on free prescriptions and free parking.

    That is how democracy works, there is plenty this SNP government has done that many MSP's have voted against.
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,938 Forumite
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    Big_Graeme wrote: »
    Ah, just vote yes and we'll sort it later, yeah good ruse that, I do hope people see right through that one :-D
    Or just vote NO like in 1979 and the same parties who promised something better will give you another couple of decades of Thatcher- style cuts like last time. A cyclops with an eyepatch could see through that one.
    Big_Graeme wrote: »
    They elected to waste money on free prescriptions and free parking.

    That is how democracy works, there is plenty this SNP government has done that many MSP's have voted against.

    Have you ever read a post you've typed? :eek:
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • scotsbob
    scotsbob Posts: 4,632 Forumite
    zagubov wrote: »
    Or just vote NO like in 1979 and the same parties who promised something better

    Yes I remember that referendum.

    Maggie Thatcher threatening us Scots that if we voted for any kind of Scottish legislature and tried to go our own way it would be catastrophic for employment. She specifically mentioned coal mines, Ravenscraig, Bathgate, Dounreay and Linwood.

    Some Scots, fearing for their jobs, got taken in by the threat and voted against. Did that save their jobs?

    I don't think we should be intimidated by the threats the English are making just now.
  • Cotta
    Cotta Posts: 3,667 Forumite
    edited 20 May 2014 at 12:20PM
    scotsbob wrote: »
    Yes I remember that referendum.

    Maggie Thatcher threatening us Scots that if we voted for any kind of Scottish legislature and tried to go our own way it would be catastrophic for employment. She specifically mentioned coal mines, Ravenscraig, Bathgate, Dounreay and Linwood.

    Some Scots, fearing for their jobs, got taken in by the threat and voted against. Did that save their jobs?

    I don't think we should be intimidated by the threats the English are making just now.

    Please go then - I'm tired of your whingeing.
  • scotsbob
    scotsbob Posts: 4,632 Forumite
    edited 20 May 2014 at 6:44PM
    Cotta wrote: »
    Please go then - I'm tired of your whingeing.

    Your tired of it? Yet paradoxically you come to the Scottish board to read about it. Seems a bit Irish to me.
  • Big_Graeme
    Big_Graeme Posts: 3,220 Forumite
    zagubov wrote: »
    Have you ever read a post you've typed? :eek:

    Yes, you still playing the man not the ball then.

    I note you have as many answers as Salmond.
  • jj_5
    jj_5 Posts: 119 Forumite
    Big_Graeme wrote: »
    Yes, you still playing the man not the ball then.

    I note you have as many answers as Salmond.

    I think most people in Scotland would agree that free prescriptions are a good thing, not a waste if money as you suggest.

    Is it your thoughts that Scotland can't Graeme? Or shouldn't.

    Most of the experts have agreed on both sides that Scotland can be a successful independent country, David Cameron included.
  • Big_Graeme
    Big_Graeme Posts: 3,220 Forumite
    jj_5 wrote: »
    I think most people in Scotland would agree that free prescriptions are a good thing, not a waste if money as you suggest.

    That's better.

    I think most people will take anything that is free, is it right that those earning a fortune have their medicines free when the NHS is so strapped for cash?
    jj_5 wrote: »
    Is it your thoughts that Scotland can't Graeme? Or shouldn't.

    Oh I have no doubt Scotland can, I don't think it should, I really don't think the figures stack up and there are many questions unanswered.
    jj_5 wrote: »
    Most of the experts have agreed on both sides that Scotland can be a successful independent country, David Cameron included.

    Expert and Cameron in the same sentence, not something you see everyday.
    There are also many so called experts who rise sound questions that are not being answered, a blanked "well sort that out AFTER the vote" just doesn't cut it on tax, social security and defense.
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