Wedding Cancelled .... being taken to court!

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

I think OP should spend £500 on a decent blow out, celebrating the fact she will not live with Mummy's Boy and have her visit for the rest of her life.

As for the ring, possession is 9/10 the law. As for the deposit, let the old werewolf take her to court and then offer to pay £1 a week!

ThumbRemote

Contact the parents and state it is their duty to mitigate their losses. As such, they will have contacted the venue to recover some of the deposit. Only when they provide evidence of having done so will you consider paying the 50% of the sum still outstanding.

Then flog the engagement ring. That should go towards what you owe.

unholyangel

duchy wrote: »

If he signed the agreement with the hotel-why is his mother involved in the court case anyway ?

Because the contract with the hotel is a different contract from the one with the parents to fund the deposit.

However one could argue that the loan was given to the son, if the venue is in his name alone. And then if son makes a claim against OP, to show that he failed to mitigate his losses.

Hintza

antrobus wrote: »

If you're talking about the engagement ring then, no, the legal presumption is that it is an outright gift.

See s3(2) of the Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1970

The gift of an engagement ring shall be presumed to be an absolute gift; this presumption may be rebutted by proving that the ring was given on the condition, express or implied, that it should be returned if the marriage did not take place for any reason.

You accept an engagement on an implied condition of marriage. If the man breaks the engagement she keeps the ring (if she wants) if the woman breaks the engagement she gives the ring back.

That is how it should be done and no lily livered law should change that. Ridiculous!!

antrobus

Hintza wrote: »

You accept an engagement on an implied condition of marriage. If the man breaks the engagement she keeps the ring (if she wants) if the woman breaks the engagement she gives the ring back.

That is how it should be done and no lily livered law should change that. Ridiculous!!

As ridiculous as you might find it, it remains the case that Parliament has seen fit to specifically legislate on the subject of the ownership of engagement rings.

Hintza

antrobus wrote: »

As ridiculous as you might find it, it remains the case that Parliament has seen fit to specifically legislate on the subject of the ownership of engagement rings.

I really don't care what is legally right, it is what is morally right that really matters. Can you not see the difference?

Up until 1936 it was legal to hunt the San people, that didn't make it right. It was legal to run concentration camps in Germany in the 30s and 40s someone else came along and said it was illegal.

OlliesDad

Hintza wrote: »

I really don't care what is legally right, it is what is morally right that really matters. Can you not see the difference?

I think that legal rights are what matters on this board.. no harm in expressing moral opinions though (morally I agree with you).

arcon5

Comparing the ring with concentration camps - pure brilliance.

But I do agree with the point that's been made.

Surely the point of law is to distinguish between right and wrong for the good of society anyway

duchy

In the early days of the internet there was a convention that if anyone did what Hintza did any debate was at an end and the discussion closed -as comparison with the murder of millions of people with whatever trivial by comparison topic was under discussion meant the contributor had lost the plot and wasn't worth continuing engaging with ........ Comparing an engagement ring with concentration camps comes into the same catagory in this case to me . I do wonder at the morality of considering the justice system as some kind of pick and mix where you only follow the laws you like though ! (especially when the poster is going on about morality themselves)

Flugelhorn

Few years down the line you might have been delighted to pay much, much more to be shot of the pair of them...

It will cause you far less stress to just pay it, sell some gifts etc if needed and move on - otherwise this will just drag on and cause more problems