Setting up VOIP - providers, telephone etc...

redux

I didn't mean 6 devices, but 6 accounts with up to 6 providers

Graham1

waqasahmed wrote: »

Graham I can't see why you jumped from 3 to 7 here?

00447+07|XXXXXXXXX

Well 04 and 06 are not used (reserved) and 05 is only dialled via a U.K. trunk which wouldn't need any translation.

anon_ymous

redux wrote: »

I didn't mean 6 devices, but 6 accounts with up to 6 providers

Sorry I meant that as well. What I typed wasn't what I meant

Graham1 wrote: »

Well 04 and 06 are not used (reserved) and 05 is only dialled via a U.K. trunk which wouldn't need any translation.

Ah I see. Makes sense. I guess for Pakistan it'd be 00447+09|XXXXXXXXX

(Pakista calling code is 0092)

BTW, can I say a massive thanks to both of you!!!! I really want to get a phone now, play with it, "deploy" it at my parents home, and then phone VM up, and say we don't want a landline any more (As well as haggling some broadband costs down)

CaptainHaddock_2

waqasahmed wrote: »

Im considering getting this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390467427002
(Siemens SL785)

That seems to come with the same base station that I use. As redux writes, you can log in to the base station and program it quite flexibly to route calls. I've used it for nine months now and made some great savings (though I don't think I've paid back the initial outlay just yet...).

It is really a lot easier to just use the VOIP route than what I used to do, which was pre-dial 0844 numbers - and I am paying less as well!

Graham1

waqasahmed wrote: »

Ah I see. Makes sense. I guess for Pakistan it'd be 00447+09|XXXXXXXXX

(Pakista calling code is 0092)

No, those translations are for U.K. numbers only when dialling through a non-U.K. trunk which needs the 0044 prefix inserted.

For international just put
00|.

at the end of the dial rule, this will pass anything starting 00 of any length unchanged (probably not strictly necessary but it helps to self document what's going on). Then in your outbound routing, either have a route for all international ("Numbers starting by" 00) or a route specific to a particular country. That way you can choose which SIP provider to use for each country you call.

The "free" account on PBXes is limited to 5 trunks maximum but that should be enough for most people.

What I have posted is just the basics, you'll probably also want rules for local numbers to save having to always dialling the full code.

afzaal1988

waqasahmed wrote: »

Sorry I meant that as well. What I typed wasn't what I meant



Ah I see. Makes sense. I guess for Pakistan it'd be 00447+09|XXXXXXXXX

(Pakista calling code is 0092)

BTW, can I say a massive thanks to both of you!!!! I really want to get a phone now, play with it, "deploy" it at my parents home, and then phone VM up, and say we don't want a landline any more (As well as haggling some broadband costs down)

it's normaly cheaper with virgin if you have broadband and phone both rather than broadband only.

I pay 12.50 for first 6 motnhs and than 18pounds after that for phone and broadband 30mb.

with broadband only they dont like going under 20 most of the time and standard price is 24 or 25 pounds i think.

So i wouldnt really cancel phone but give them the call and say you want to move to talk talk and they will most likly price match that deal or close to that, like they have done with mine.

CaptainHaddock_2

redux wrote: »

If you have one of the Gigaset VoIP models as mentioned above (A580IP here), you can log in to the device control panel and set up to register a number (e.g. 6) of SIP accounts.

Then it will receive calls for any of the accounts. For outgoing calls the default setting can be either to dial as a landline call or the favourite VoIP account, and other providers are selected per call with a #n suffix on the dialled number

So you could do most stuff just with that, then figure out pbxes later

redux - if you are using one of these, perhaps you can help me out with a question: I have been using Localphone with my N300A IP. The mention of DIDLogic on this thread has made me want to test them out, especially for a some countries where the quality is quite poor on Localphone. So I signed up and set up my N300A to use both Localphone and DIDLogic, but it falls down on that they expect the numbers in different formats. Localphone expects 0044nnnnnnnnnn, while DIDLogic expects 44nnnnnnnnnn.

Is there a way of solving this with just the N300A or do I have to add PBXes into the mix?

redux

CaptainHaddock wrote: »

redux - if you are using one of these, perhaps you can help me out with a question: I have been using Localphone with my N300A IP. The mention of DIDLogic on this thread has made me want to test them out, especially for a some countries where the quality is quite poor on Localphone. So I signed up and set up my N300A to use both Localphone and DIDLogic, but it falls down on that they expect the numbers in different formats. Localphone expects 0044nnnnnnnnnn, while DIDLogic expects 44nnnnnnnnnn.

Is there a way of solving this with just the N300A or do I have to add PBXes into the mix?

I don't know, as so far I only have one VoIP account set up, and press and hold dial button to select it.

But I would assume that you could try the format as each specific provider expects, with the #n suffix at the end.

A dialplan is like a sort of filter test on the phone number to decide which provider to use, but the Gigaset method isn't really doing that if you just select manually.

This is an untested guess so far though, so apologies if you've already tried and I'm wrong

CaptainHaddock_2

redux wrote: »

But I would assume that you could try the format as each specific provider expects, with the suffix at the end.

A dialplan is like a sort of filter test on the phone number to decide which provider to use, but the Gigaset method isn't really doing that if you just select manually.

The Gigaset has a page where you tell it what country and area code you are in and how to treat/add "00" etc - but that settings page is common to all trunks. Then there is a settings page where you can direct calls to different trunks depending on what number they start with, so e.g. US calls to Localpphone and calls to Spain to DIDLogic. What I haven't figured out is how you can have a number stored in your phone book in one format (either "0049xxxx.." or "49xxx") and then have the Gigaset send the right number sequence to each trunk provider.

Graham1: If I read the thread correctly, that number translation should be possible with PBXes, correct?

redux

CaptainHaddock wrote: »

The Gigaset has a page where you tell it what country and area code you are in and how to treat/add "00" etc - but that settings page is common to all trunks. Then there is a settings page where you can direct calls to different trunks depending on what number they start with, so e.g. US calls to Localpphone and calls to Spain to DIDLogic. What I haven't figured out is how you can have a number stored in your phone book in one format (either "0049xxxx.." or "49xxx") and then have the Gigaset send the right number sequence to each trunk provider.

Graham1: If I read the thread correctly, that number translation should be possible with PBXes, correct?

Ok, you've clearly studied it more than me.

But even so do you actually need to set all that stuff up?

The simplest example of modifying a number might be when dialling a local number in the same exchange. From a landline you can just dial the 6 digit number, but a VoIP provider might not support that.

Or on the other hand it might; even in my Justvoip account I found the facility to do this by defining the local exchange prefix, which it then adds automatically.

So just manually composing the number should be ok, though I can see your point about eventually figuring it all out about phone book memory entries