Nicotine Replacement Products discussion

Sam_26

Please see the link for full details on the MHRAs Public consultation Document (MLX 364): The regulation of nicotine containing products

HOW WILL THIS LEGISLATION, IF PASSED AFFECT YOU!

1. As from the 21st June 2010 all selling of un-licensed nicotine products (E.liquids, Pre Filled Cartridges Containing Nicotine) will be banned. Companies such as The Electronic Cigarette Company and Totally Wicked would be shut down by Trading Standards.

2. Its worth asking yourself the question, that are these products safe if they need regulating?

Thanks

woolly1

Sam_26 wrote: »

Please see the link for full details on the MHRAs Public consultation Document (MLX 364): The regulation of nicotine containing products

HOW WILL THIS LEGISLATION, IF PASSED AFFECT YOU!

1. As from the 21st June 2010 all selling of un-licensed nicotine products (E.liquids, Pre Filled Cartridges Containing Nicotine) will be banned. Companies such as The Electronic Cigarette Company and Totally Wicked would be shut down by Trading Standards.

2. Its worth asking yourself the question, that are these products safe if they need regulating?

Thanks

1. a ban on unlicenced products is only one option in the proposal - this is why they are having a CONSULTATION to find out peoples views. Nicotine containing products are already regulated under other legislation.

2. if these products were not safe the legislation they are currently subject to would not allow their sale. The government has actually stated that nicotine is a fairly safe drug. Electronic cigarettes are certainly much safer than tobacco cigarettes which contain over 4000 chemicals, produce carcinogens when burnt and are a proven killer.

I have now stopped smoking for 4 1/2 weeks with electronic cigarettes and feel fantastic. If anything should be banned it should be normal cigarettes and all smokers given electronic ones as a healthier alternative!

I think the main motivation for MHRA's wish to regulate is pressure from the big pharmaceutical companies who don't want competition with their NRT products which have unpleasant side effects and are not particularly effective, keeping you on the quit, fail, quit again bandwagon thereby keeping their profits going. Pretty sure the big tobacco companies may have had an influence too ... e-cigarettes are cheaper and healthier, it's a no brainer really and they don't like it.

tez1104

I think what many non-smokers don't realise is the true extent of how much work physically and mentally needs to be put in to quitting smoking. Research shows that there are about 4000 chemicals in a normal cigarette - and everyone knows the dangers of smoking but yet its not so easy to quit.

I think both patches and electronic cigarette products are good alternative to smoking and a good way slowly cut down as during the cut down period you are not still taking in the 4000 chemicals in a normal cigarette.

manaylor

I have tried on many occasions to stop smoking and I have had some success. However, I always seem to drift back into the habit. I have tried gum and patches. I'm 50 years old now and I have been "smoking" electronic cigarettes for about 3 months. They are about 75% less cost and I can smoke in pubs, at work and in my home or anywhere without breaking any laws or offending anybody. Someone told me that they are now being sold on airlines for exorbitant prices.

They are a steam/vapour alternative to smoke. The mist they emit is similar to the stuff they use in night clubs and theatres. In my opinion, they are the best thing since sliced bread. My volumetric lung capacity has increased. My overall health is better and I now only spend about £12 per week as opposed to £44! Some of my colleagues use e-cigs at work and smoke the occasional traditional cig elsewhere. I did the same to start with and I found it is best to use e-cigs in the morning. I eventually replaced the the habit so that I am using e-cigs 100% of the time. This is easy to do when you realise the benefits. I did not feel that I was craving for tobacco when I did the "change over"!

However, I am still addicted to nicotine. It is best to describe e-cigarettes as a "Nicotine Delivery System" but without the carcinogens, tars, and 4200 chemicals that are found in cigarette or tobacco smoke. Although nicotine is addictive and has some health issues, I feel that e-cigs are a fantastic alternative to "feeding your nicotine habit" than filling your lungs with foul,stinky and much more dangerous smoke. I can imagine that they will be quite popular in the coming years. My partner is very pleased that I no longer smell like an ashtray and has mentioned that I seem to snore less (but she would say that, wouldn't she!)

There are a lot of dubious e-cigarette manufacturers out there at the moment, especially on the net. I know that because I learned the hard way! My advice would be to stick to a UK based manufacturer with a good customer care and product return policy and to use cartridges and liquids that are also made in UK or EU to pharmacy standards and child/tamper proof packaging. I can now afford to visit my local pub more and enjoy a "vape" without having to exit the premises. On that note, this gadget could also save our pubs! :beer:

weeneldo

Just posted this in the other topic, never realised this one was here!

If you live in the Greater Glasgow area you can get a 12 week course of Nicorette patches from your local pharmacy for £9 if you pay for prescriptions and for free if you don't! You just go into the pharmacy once a week to collect your patches and they gradually work you down the doses. They can also refer you to all kinds of local support groups and sources of advice as well as having the pharmacist's expertise.

Folk in other areas: pop into your pharmacy and ask if they offer any kind of Smoking Cessation scheme. I know that lots of NHS health boards (especially in Scotland) offer similar schemes to the one in Glasgow, whereby you can get heavily discounted/free patches direct from your pharmacy. Also I know a lot of GP practices run nurse-led smoking clinics.

hazelc56

Cant understand why Niquitin Lozenges are not as popular as they really should be.I stopped smoking cigs about 4 years ago and havent looked back since and i believe its due to these lozenges.Tried countless times before with other smoking cessation products but always encountered some sort of side effect/problem with them and always went back to smoking again.However i would add that i am still on the lozenges (my own personal lack of willpower).
When i mention to my chemist from time to time that i really will have to muster the willpower to come off the lozenges,they always say that "at least im not smoking and getting the unwanted chemicals into my system",so i assume from this statement that these things are harmless...needless to say it does nothing to encourage me to actually come off them.I know i will come off them some day and know also that whilst i am on them i will NEVER EVER start smoking again.I buy a 72 4mg pack original flavour every week,I never have a whole one but do break it into 4 peices taking a quarter at a time...that way i can control the amount of nicotine i take in,which you cant do with some of the other products.The biggest problem i have is the actual availability of them in the pharmacies.I have been told different excuses like they dont sell well or they sell too well or that Glaxo Smith Kline had a big fire at their main distributang warehouse and this latest excuse is that they are re-packaging them at the moment.
I personally feel that the reason they are hard to obtain is that they are not advertised as being so good.....which they should be because they really are.Please GSK get a move on and get sorted with this very good product.

timmmers

manaylor wrote: »

I have tried on many occasions to stop smoking and I have had some success. However, I always seem to drift back into the habit. I have tried gum and patches. I'm 50 years old now and I have been "smoking" electronic cigarettes for about 3 months. They are about 75% less cost and I can smoke in pubs, at work and in my home or anywhere without breaking any laws or offending anybody. Someone told me that they are now being sold on airlines for exorbitant prices.

They are a steam/vapour alternative to smoke. The mist they emit is similar to the stuff they use in night clubs and theatres. In my opinion, they are the best thing since sliced bread. My volumetric lung capacity has increased. My overall health is better and I now only spend about £12 per week as opposed to £44! Some of my colleagues use e-cigs at work and smoke the occasional traditional cig elsewhere. I did the same to start with and I found it is best to use e-cigs in the morning. I eventually replaced the the habit so that I am using e-cigs 100% of the time. This is easy to do when you realise the benefits. I did not feel that I was craving for tobacco when I did the "change over"!

However, I am still addicted to nicotine. It is best to describe e-cigarettes as a "Nicotine Delivery System" but without the carcinogens, tars, and 4200 chemicals that are found in cigarette or tobacco smoke. Although nicotine is addictive and has some health issues, I feel that e-cigs are a fantastic alternative to "feeding your nicotine habit" than filling your lungs with foul,stinky and much more dangerous smoke. I can imagine that they will be quite popular in the coming years. My partner is very pleased that I no longer smell like an ashtray and has mentioned that I seem to snore less (but she would say that, wouldn't she!)

There are a lot of dubious e-cigarette manufacturers out there at the moment, especially on the net. I know that because I learned the hard way! My advice would be to stick to a UK based manufacturer with a good customer care and product return policy and to use cartridges and liquids that are also made in UK or EU to pharmacy standards and child/tamper proof packaging. I can now afford to visit my local pub more and enjoy a "vape" without having to exit the premises. On that note, this gadget could also save our pubs! :beer:

Thanks for that. Any recommendations of legit places to buy them, or NOT buy them ?

Personally I think it's pure stupidity to put people off these simply because they are by a long way the lesser of two evils (if they are evil at all). I just watched a professor on TV laughing as he mocked the logic of banning these as they contain nicotine which is about as harmful as caffeine. Patches contain nicotine anyway so as long as these are ligitimately manufactured there's no difference.

GR008

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terra_ferma

timmmers wrote: »

Thanks for that. Any recommendations of legit places to buy them, or NOT buy them ?

Personally I think it's pure stupidity to put people off these simply because they are by a long way the lesser of two evils (if they are evil at all). I just watched a professor on TV laughing as he mocked the logic of banning these as they contain nicotine which is about as harmful as caffeine. Patches contain nicotine anyway so as long as these are ligitimately manufactured there's no difference.

search for all about ecig forum and you'll find lots of recommendations and discount codes

terra_ferma

manaylor wrote: »

My advice would be to stick to a UK based manufacturer with a good customer care and product return policy and to use cartridges and liquids that are also made in UK or EU to pharmacy standards and child/tamper proof packaging.:beer:

Good luck with that! E-cig vaping devices are manufactured in China, they invented e-cig. A few specialised devices are made in USA, but well overpriced in my opinion. Never heard of a device manufactured in UK, unless they are cutom made mods.
e liquids can be found made in the UK, but you have to make sure you choose a reputable supplier, several USA liquids have in the past being found to contain harful chemicals, not sure about UK/Chinese liquids, but you don't really know who you can trust.