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Health Checks at School
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My daughter is in reception and we had a letter before christmas asking for permission to have her weighed (nothing about sight or hearing tests).
I must admit I never filled it in, I understand the good thinking behind it, but I still think it's wrong to stick a 4/5 year old on a scale and then decide if they have a problem!0 -
My daughter is in reception and we had a letter before christmas asking for permission to have her weighed (nothing about sight or hearing tests).
I must admit I never filled it in, I understand the good thinking behind it, but I still think it's wrong to stick a 4/5 year old on a scale and then decide if they have a problem!
Wrong? In what sense?
It's not about finding slightly overweight children. It's about identifying the children who could be at risk from malnutrition and other health problems due to being over or underweight. Having a baseline can be useful in later life. No-one says to the child that they're fat!0 -
We got a letter about it.
I opted out.
The nurse then rang me to see if I wanted my daughter weighed because "some parents don't understand that they are opting out when they fill out the form". I just told her that I wasn't that daft."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
I'm a school nurse and in our area, letters are sent out from the local NHS trust to parents via school. You opt out of the service rather than consent to it.
You are obviously not a healthcare 'professional', then, otherwise you would know that it is assault to perform procedures on people without consent. For which you can be prosecuted and struck off. There is too much of this 'opt-out' business. It is illegal and you should not be doing it!. The school should not be allowing it to occur, either, and the school should separately be asking for consent from parents to allow their children to see the school nurse, who should then be asking for consent to do whatever they want to do.
If this had happened to my child, the police would have been summoned to deal with it.I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?0 -
surreysaver wrote: »You are obviously not a healthcare 'professional', then, otherwise you would know that it is assault to perform procedures on people without consent. For which you can be prosecuted and struck off. There is too much of this 'opt-out' business. It is illegal and you should not be doing it!. The school should not be allowing it to occur, either, and the school should separately be asking for consent from parents to allow their children to see the school nurse, who should then be asking for consent to do whatever they want to do.
If this had happened to my child, the police would have been summoned to deal with it.
You really think the police would be interested in your complaint that a school nurse asked your child to step onto a scale?0 -
Person_one wrote: »You really think the police would be interested in your complaint that a school nurse asked your child to step onto a scale?
It is assault. You think they should be immune from the law because they are a nurse? Harold Shipman. Alder Hey. Staffordshire. Healthcare 'professionals' being too trusted leads to abuse.I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?0 -
surreysaver wrote: »It is assault. You think they should be immune from the law because they are a nurse? Harold Shipman. Alder Hey. Staffordshire. Healthcare 'professionals' being too trusted leads to abuse.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offences_against_the_person/0 -
Person_one wrote: »
And your point is? Where does it say there that a nurse can perform medical procedures on a child without parental consent?I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?0 -
surreysaver wrote: »And your point is? Where does it say there that a nurse can perform medical procedures on a child without parental consent?
They can't, but asking a child to step on a scale is not a medical procedure and is not assault.0 -
Person_one wrote: »They can't, but asking a child to step on a scale is not a medical procedure and is not assault.
Depends upon the reasons for asking them to step on the scale. Define 'medical procedure'. If it is for medical reasons, it is a medical procedure. What if a stranger asked your child to step on a scale without asking permission? It is the same thing. That is why they need to ask for consent to do anything - because people like me have specific reasons why I would object, and unless I'm asked for consent, then they are not in a position to know that I am objecting, as they cannot guarantee that I have received an opt-out form, or that it has been returned. If a consent form has not been returned, they can chase it up. You cannot expect them to chase up objection forms, as they would need to contact nearly every parent.
OK, maybe contacting the police is a bit strong, but I would certainly be contacting the NMC about it.
But also, because healthcare 'professionals' are trained on issues and law regarding consent and assault, then the offence is that much more serious if they perform procedures without asking for consent.I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?0
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