MET - Chiltern railway

slickshoes

Apologies for the extremely late response, but just to update you, POPLA did indeed cancel the ticket.

Since then, I stupidly received another PCN in the same circumstances, but followed the appeal process through once again with the same result.

Thanks for all the help

Coupon-mad

Nice one!

prjohnsonnn10

Update on MET and Chiltern

They ARE now definitely offering POPLA and following through ie I have managed to get them to issue an evidence pack anyway.

Byelaws - they ARE using byelaws and i have had correspondance with them where i am pushing them on what basis the £100 that they are requesting relates in anyway to any 'byelaws' fine or penalty.

Get this - they have replied and are now in a real knot because they have put in writing that it is NOT a penalty or fine related to the offence itself BUT they are looking to capture the £100 under reference to the section in the byelaws that 'they ' (presumably Chiltern and MET by association?) are able to claim 'additional costs' incurred for the damage / loss they have suffered over and above any fixed byelaw penalty . Gets even more interesting now as they then are citing entitlement to do this under the obscure piece in the Byelaws which refers to reimbursement for addl costs and damage incurred say for instance when a dog causes damage to a train or property and any byelaws fine wld not be suffcient to reimburse them and therefore they are claiming this £100 now under that section ie it is a special cost over and above any bye law amount.

They are in a total mess now and I am going to pursue this as of course a) no penalty has actually been applied under any byelaw, all they have done is allege a breach of the byelaws and b) as for the addl damages they have suffered we are going to have a field day with this. What is the £100 for.... we are now back on the old GPEOL arena by the looks of things in these car parks

Thoughts ?

Castle

prjohnsonnn10 wrote: »

Thoughts ?

So basically it's the same as a "civil recovery" claim by shops in cases of theft. In this case the byelaw breach is effectively the "theft". Therefore we are back to GPEOL and Byelaw 14 is silent on the subject of additional costs.