Ukpc & dr+

shredx81

Stroma wrote: »

Ignore is an option of course, but we can only tell you what could happen, and that is a claim against your company. It's very odd setup at your company with this, if it's the company name on the RK details and I presume they are a limited company, one step they could do is write to the registered address of the company with these threats.

That could mean you don't see these letters and it goes to a different department or the managing director, and a decision is made to pay. We always advise on here to take it away from companies because in general they become nervous with the letters, and they pay! Which leaves people with a problem with their employer. What does your contract of employment say on this? What is the policy for fleet cars?

I'm a senior member of a relatively small ltd firm. I work at its registered address. There is no means of any correspondence relating to these offences not finding its way directly to me.
If there was indeed a legal requirement for my company to pay the full amount, there would be no internal hostility or difficulty regarding my employment or repayment. It's peanuts compared to our lucrative business. I'm just refusing to pay out of principle. It's an absurd amount of money to pay for leaving a vehicle unmanned, harmlessly on planet earth somewhere for 10 minutes.
As long as I & the seniors involved are aware of their legal obligation to pay or not pay, assuming sound legal advice can be obtained from this website, that's what i'm interested in.
I suppose the question is "can my company ignore these letters"?

Stroma

I'm sorry but we can't give you legal advice as we are not solicitors, and getting legal advice would probably cost more than the invoices. All we can offer is the benefit of experience. I have seen this situation thousands of times where the parking company is threatening all sorts of garbage.

And you are right it is an absurd amount of money they are demanding, which is unfair and unlawful in a vast majority of cases, that is the reason why we are here.

shredx81

Stroma wrote: »

I'm sorry but we can't give you legal advice as we are not solicitors, and getting legal advice would probably cost more than the invoices. All we can offer is the benefit of experience. I have seen this situation thousands of times where the parking company is threatening all sorts of garbage.

And you are right it is an absurd amount of money they are demanding, which is unfair and unlawful in a vast majority of cases, that is the reason why we are here.

So beyond my company receiving a barrage of threatening letters which 'they' will continue to ignore (at my leisure), what actual legal action can UKPC, Debt Recovery Plus & future agencies involved take to enforce payment of these invoices?

ColliesCarer

Given you are confident of intercepting any mail regarding the parking notices and then dealing with it - I think if you look back over your thread you will see you have already been given all the information you need to make your own decision.

ColliesCarer wrote: »

Please read post #4 of the sticky NEWBIES thread - DR+ are a debt collector

Debt collectors issuing threats of court is covered in the above

Coupon-mad wrote: »

You are up against a PPC which doesn't do Court ............. keep all the letters just in case but with UKPC I wouldn't worry about it nor respond at this late stage. As long as it is UKPC and not UKCPS!

But watch out for a Letter Before County Court from UKPC or
Court Papers

ampersand

PLEASE READ WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO READ.

We all know the 'spinning head' syndrome which comes from reading from your way to freedom: it's the one ppc's rely on to fund their scam-style living[forthcoming Mansion Tax ahoy!]

If your Co. is small in number and mail is thus dealt with, why can you not use headed paper to send off Driver details and then proceed as consistently advised above? I can see absolutely nothing nefarious, nor is my intention in suggesting it, in this.

Squiggle signature is more than enough[you'll find this advised elsewhere]+Certificate of Posting always.

shredx81

ColliesCarer wrote: »

Given you are confident of intercepting any mail regarding the parking notices and then dealing with it - I think if you look back over your thread you will see you have already been given all the information you need to make your own decision.



Debt collectors issuing threats of court is covered in the above



But watch out for a Letter Before County Court from UKPC or
Court Papers

Thanks for your help.

ampersand wrote: »

PLEASE READ WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO READ.

We all know the 'spinning head' syndrome which comes from reading from your way to freedom: it's the one ppc's rely on to fund their scam-style living[forthcoming Mansion Tax ahoy!]

If your Co. is small in number and mail is thus dealt with, why can you not use headed paper to send off Driver details and then proceed as consistently advised above? I can see absolutely nothing nefarious, nor is my intention in suggesting it, in this.

Squiggle signature is more than enough[you'll find this advised elsewhere]+Certificate of Posting always.

This post is further ambiguous. If my company is in a position to ignore the correspondence & it is, apparently, not enforceable in any way until the point where my company actually receive an official summons, what benefit is there in passing on the driver's details to the PPC?

Stroma

We are going around in circles, we offer this advice because in general we think that leaving a company liable is not the done thing . If you are comfortable with the situation then leave it as is with the company ignoring it. Just don't blame us if it goes wrong for you.

Redx

your company wont get a summons as they are for criminal matters , not civil matters

the point about these matters for england and wales is POFA 2012 which makes the RK liable for the charge if the driver doesnt pay up and has done so since oct 2012

if this RK is the same "person" as the driver then there is no real difference , meaning the PPC may take the RK to court if they dont know who the driver is so somebody at your company could be taken to court , either the RK or the driver

it is all explained in the newbies thread , as is the debt collector issues in post #4 of that newbies thread

if and when you get an LBC or court papers from northampton or salford then do not ignore any further as its time to start swapping paperwork or possibly mediation or a court appearance

shredx81

Stroma wrote: »

We are going around in circles, we offer this advice because in general we think that leaving a company liable is not the done thing . If you are comfortable with the situation then leave it as is with the company ignoring it. Just don't blame us if it goes wrong for you.

With the greatest of respect, I fail to see what advice you've offered in this thread.
In fact, many of the responses i've read to many of the threads on this subject are greeted with the tone of some elitist undergraduate law student, bored of reading & responding to the same PPC queries. I'd even go so far as to say that the 'help' often reads as deliberately ambiguous, hostile & unhelpful. My initial post was greeted with almost immediate hostility in fact.

Stroma

Well I'm out of here! I have taken my time to reply to you and offered my opinion, if you consider that as no advice then so be it I'll go! And FYI the vast majority have tried to help, if you don't bloody take then so be it!

Goodbye