Cambridge Court case hoax phone call update

BenefitMaster

da_rule wrote: »

A JD is impressive but tends to suggest you have a legal qualification from a country outside of the UK.

Finally, "Criminal proceedings are deemed active once a person is arrested" so yes, on arrest sub judice applies. (http://www.out-law.com/page-9742)

I'd rather see a cite from a statute (as I already did) or from a transcript. And yes, my JD is not issued in England, you are right. :-) Doesn't change the fact that I deal with these issues on a daily basis.

Sub-Judice is common law, was effectively repealed in 1981, and does not apply to our discussions here.

BenefitMaster

spacey2012 wrote: »

The people on here that know me, know who I am and what I did for 33 years.
That is enough for me.
To everyone else, I can be anything they want me to be.
But lets put it this way when I tell you it is Sub Judice, it might be a good idea to listen
Or just call me
Troll, liar, talker of rubbish, tin foil hatter.
I like all of those.

I don't criticise your advice, just the accuracy of your position. CPD exists for a reason. Which is why I no longer advise on benefits.

terra_ferma

HO87 wrote: »

The answer is no. Even though I detect a tongue firmly in cheek. Speculation is pointless and will only fuel wild theories. As eager as we may all be to hear news on this topic chewing the same, tired piece of old shoe leather in the hope that it might transmute into some tasty morsel serves no purpose whatsoever.

What I'm really after is some reliable source confirming that this arrest has actually happened, as it could well be someone's idea of a joke, and personally I can't see any contempt of court when there is absolutely no reliable evidence that a court is indeed involved. To someone opening a new account especially making this announcement is far from being a reliable source of information and it's not impossible that the OP's aim is to divulge false information to manipulate the forum.
EDIT this post only concerns the legal position in relation to the OP stating there has been an arrest, I'm not getting involved in the legal argument about what happens after an arrest has been made, just to be clear.

da_rule

da_rule wrote: »

Firstly, there is no such thing as a LPC registrations number. There are registration numbers for the SRA and the Bar but thats it.

A JD is impressive but tends to suggest you have a legal qualification from a country outside of the UK.

Finally, "Criminal proceedings are deemed active once a person is arrested" so yes, on arrest sub judice applies. (http://www.out-law.com/page-9742)

Ok then, if you insist on arguing statute repeals common law, which in this case it does not but I'll go with it. Schedule 1 Paragraph 4 of the Contempt Of Court Act 1981 sets out that arrest without warrant is a step in criminal proceedings to which Section 2 of the Act therefore applies, therefore the proceedings are active as per the Act.

Also, if you are giving advice and seem so keen on people giving their registration numbers then lets have your SRA/Bar registration details.

da_rule

terra_ferma wrote: »

What I'm really after is some reliable source confirming that this arrest has actually happened, as it could well be someone's idea of a joke, and personally I can't see any contempt of court when there is absolutely no reliable evidence that a court is indeed involved. To someone opening a new account especially making this announcement is far from being a reliable source of information and it's not impossible that the OP's aim is to divulge false information to manipulate the forum.

Well GMP aren't reporting it on their Facebook page or their news page, but it may be that they suspect there are offenders outstanding so they may not 'go public' with it.

ampersand

For the good of the Parking forum - and you are both strong helpful posters - may I ask that you cease squabble-posting now, inadvertently providiing succour for 'others'?

Agree to disagree and leave it there.

HO87

terra_ferma wrote: »

What I'm really after is some reliable source confirming that this arrest has actually happened, as it could well be someone's idea of a joke, and personally I can't see any contempt of court when there is absolutely no reliable evidence that a court is indeed involved. To someone opening a new account especially making this announcement is far from being a reliable source of information and it's not impossible that the OP's aim is to divulge false information to manipulate the forum.
EDIT this post only concerns the legal position in relation to the OP stating there has been an arrest, I'm not getting involved in the legal argument about what happens after an arrest has been made, just to be clear.

There is no "reliable" source. I refer you to the following:

BenefitMaster wrote: »

I'd rather see a cite from a statute (as I already did) or from a transcript. And yes, my JD is not issued in England, you are right. :-) Doesn't change the fact that I deal with these issues on a daily basis.

Sub-Judice is common law, was effectively repealed in 1981, and does not apply to our discussions here.

Sub Judice, as was, is now dealt with under the Contempt of Court 1981 - as you have alluded to. The arrest of a person on suspicion is an arrest without warrant. I refer you to:

Para. 4 of Schedule 1 defines criminal proceedings as being active when:

The initial steps of criminal proceedings are:—

(a)arrest without warrant;

Here endeth my contribution to this pointless twaddle.

BenefitMaster

da_rule wrote: »

Ok then, if you insist on arguing statute repeals common law, which in this case it does not but I'll go with it. Schedule 1 Paragraph 4 of the Contempt Of Court Act 1981 sets out that arrest without warrant is a step in criminal proceedings to which Section 2 of the Act therefore applies, therefore the proceedings are active as per the Act.

Also, if you are giving advice and seem so keen on people giving their registration numbers then lets have your SRA/Bar registration details.

Statute law always overrides common law. See R and Rimmington [2005] UKHL 63. Common law cannot be extended any more due to Article 7 of the Convention on Human Rights, see R v Khan & Khan [1998] Crim LR 830.

And as I don't practise in a regulated activity, I have no requirement to be registered with the Bar Council. That doesn't make my position and qualifications any less valid.

terra_ferma

HO87 wrote: »

There is no "reliable" source. I refer you to the following:


Sub Judice, as was, is now dealt with under the Contempt of Court 1981 - as you have alluded to. The arrest of a person on suspicion is an arrest without warrant. I refer you to:

Para. 4 of Schedule 1 defines criminal proceedings as being active when:

Here endeth my contribution to this pointless twaddle.

I think you misunderstood my post , I'm not getting involved in this specific legal argument (I've added a note to this purpose), my comments only refers to the OP and their reliability as a source of information but it's a personal opinion not trying to incite an argument.

enfield_freddy

umm , has someone been arrested or not? , don,t want to know there name or what they had for breakfast , just a simple question


has anyone apart from the OP got any information regarding an arrest,


if I don,t get an answer I will have to ring Mr Altaras (again) to ask him!