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Just got a letter about a six year old parking "fine"

This incident occurred back in 2008, when all of the advice was just to ignore (which we duly did). It's from Civil Enforcement over a Co-Op car park overstay.

The letter indicates that the "debt" has been assigned on to a debt company (although I've heard that before!). Just interesting that it's raised its head again.

I cant find anything on the forums that relates to anything as old as this. Is this just another piece of paper to stick in my ignore tray? Has anyone else had anything dating back from so long ago?
"One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
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  • da_rule
    da_rule Posts: 3,618 Forumite
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    As this before the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, the advice was and is just to ignore it. The parking company have 6 years from the date of the parking incident to commence court proceedings. If you start getting letters from a solicitor threatening legal action or paper work from the court then the situation changes.
  • mrcow
    mrcow Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    That's really interesting - thank you for your response.

    The letter was dated exactly 9 days off the 6 year mark (but it took a month for them to send it - so six years have been and gone). I guess they are just having a pitch at fishing for money.



    Edit: Sorry I've just realised - this was actually from 2006 not 2008 - so it's 8 years old!
    "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
  • ampersand
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    Even better!

    That's what comes of trying to milk MR cow.........
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  • Stroma
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    From 2006? I would report them to ICO as they are not supposed to keep data for so long, and the dvla as well for good measure. They really having a laugh with this, the assisgnment of debt stuff is the precursor of them trying a small claim
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • da_rule
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    In that case I'd be tempted to send them a letter saying:

    "I'm not paying so take me to court......oh no wait, you can't!"

    Mind you, knowing some of the PPC's legal departments (and the solicitors they use) you'll have to explain what a limitation period is.
  • mrcow
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    It's tempting, but we did such a good ignoring job in the first place, it's a shame to break it! In the beginning, we had a few letters (of varying colours) threatening us with their "legal team". It just never went anywhere, and now this.

    I'm suprised we're the only ones, as back then, we were all ignoring them!

    Just reread the letter and it's so funny. The letter is dated February, but it refers to an "assignment" dated three weeks later. I think it's because they are so stupid, they couldn't even get the date on the top of the letter right!

    They are an embarrassment to themselves.
    "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    edited 16 March 2014 at 12:19AM
    It's statute barred:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2606811

    As well as being a crock of shhht in the first place! They are an embarrassment. I think I would send a complaint email to the BPA about them though which would not involve breaking cover at all because you'd write as the keeper, pointing out that an AOS member is sending rubbish about 'selling debts' (which they can't do without a credit agreement) and not only that it's a statute bared 2006 fake PCN!

    I would complain because I suspect Civil Enforcement are already on a slippery slope as regards sanction points...you never know if your complaint could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Always worth it.
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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Send it to Co-op complaining bitterly about harassment, they may send you some vouchers.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • nicechap
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    If you do write to the Co-op, tell them not to pay it on your behalf - CEL seem to have started chasing lots of co-op car park invoices as when customers complain to the co-op, the co-op pay it on their behalf.

    Bizarre!

    But if the business model of CEL (&others) is about to implode they may be trying to get as much as they can before the curtain comes down.
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    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Why not send them something like this? :D

    For the avoidance of doubt, there is no validity to your claim.
    Unless you withdraw from further communications I shall treat this as harassment.
    Complaints shall be made to the BPA and other relevant bodies.
    Knowing you have no foundation to this case may lead you to be sanctioned by the BPA.

    On the off-chance that this letter is read by someone with a brain cell,
    Forthwith and henceforth, desist from any further communications.
    Felicitations,

    Registered Keeper
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