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Nice People Thread Number 11 - A Treasury of Nice People

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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,274 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    The Barbican low rise flats were charged £20,000 a flat for 2 years to have a new lift put into an existing shaft. That worked out at £80,000 a floor for 12 flats on 6 floors but they also had to pay for 2 floors that had no flats on them.

    So total cost was £12*80,000/8 per floor = £120,000 per floor so the implied cost for you is £360,000. However, they already had the lift shaft there and perhaps some of the running gear could be re-used.

    However, this being The Barbican you can bet the lifts were pretty high spec. They had a key summons only on one floor and also a special security key which was used as the fireman's key. Also, having the City of London Corporation as the freeholder they'd have to use council rules for tendering which tend to result in expensive outcomes. In addition, I would imagine that the longer the lift, the greater the cost per floor.

    That's a very long way of saying, "I don't know either".

    I fear you might be right that my 100k figure is way too low. At least that gives some sort of comparison figure.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Spirit wrote: »
    Yeah.

    A new career beckons for us in this line of work. You will need to wear a sharp suit and smarm your way around the politcos whilst I, Cruella Deville style gather an endless supply of kittens.

    A tactic could be to photobomb the opposition to set them up as accompanied by staffordshire or pit bull terriers, German shepherds and English Bull Terriers. Any dog unpopular with the daily mail will do..personally I would chuck in Chinese Crested or any dog that needs a jumper due to lack of fur.

    There are those hideous hairless cats too.

    We could also stitch up the opposition being photographed with pot-bellied pigs (there goes the Jewish/Islamic vote) and being horrid to baby calves (no votes from the Hindu electorate).

    Nothing can possibly go wrong now.:cool:
  • Nikkster
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    Spirit wrote: »
    It is a pretty impressive place (tourists put videos of the outside of it on Youtube so I have seen a bit).

    And to think that the bit of my house I'm probably most proud of pointing out on the Grand Tour is the airing cupboard. Its nothing special, just the fact that I have one :rotfl:
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    I fear you might be right that my 100k figure is way too low. At least that gives some sort of comparison figure.

    It seems so on the face of it. Those numbers are a decade old too unfortunately although I would imagine that pricing power for lift engineers hasn't been fantastic during a period when few apartments or offices have been built.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Absolutely. It is though a bit of a change for people who think that libraries are only about books (mostly older people who yearn for places of quiet tranquility or people who never visit them), or like PN who would never think to do it.

    I visit libraries fairly often - mostly Gray's Inn library, but sometimes Middle Temple. And they are very quiet places, pretty much only about books, although you can plug laptops in.
    I often think that people on this site giving "advice" about free things people can do must live in/near London. There really isn't anything much in a lot of the country.

    I'd go on a free Roman Walk .... if something like that were here it'd probably be £5-12. Then on top of that you have to factor in the cost of fuel/parking.

    That's why I don't go out much/often/at all. Nothing to go out for and it's all a cost. There are only so many times you can walk to the end of the road and back before you know what's there (once).... after that you're just wasting your time so might as well sit on the sofa :)

    You could cycle to get to the Roman walk, and avoid petrol and parking costs.

    While London is great for free things, there are lots of other things worth going out for. When we stay at my parents' house in Kent, we go out a lot, even though there's nothing museum-like nearby. You can stroll, examine wildlife, exercise, all free and nearby. And places change, too, with the seasons.

    In London I tend to wander, too - especially at the moment, the weather's gorgeous. You always end up seeing a building you'd not noticed before, or a square tucked away behind a main road. I am taking Kermie at the moment, but a 6 week old baby isn't company, his conversation is very limited.
    That's to stop them manhandling themselves and sneakily snogging girls.

    Very extreme, though - even when in their Mormon-boys-only flat they had to be within sight and sound of each other. That would drive me completely mad.
    Right - I have stuff to do for a couple of days, so you won't see me about ..... off to fill up the car, back with some bought goodies (nothing exciting) in a couple of days.

    Best of luck PN, hope you enjoy your moving preparations, and see you soon!
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Spirit_2
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    Nikkster wrote: »
    And to think that the bit of my house I'm probably most proud of pointing out on the Grand Tour is the airing cupboard. Its nothing special, just the fact that I have one :rotfl:

    You could MSE style impress visitors more by the addition of a sign on the airing cupoard door that reads "LIFT".

    Just don't let them look inside.
  • Spirit_2
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    . I am taking Kermie at the moment, but a 6 week old baby isn't company, his conversation is very limited.

    !

    He sounds like an excellent listener.

    How is Isaac? Specifically how is his reading coming on?
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Spirit wrote: »
    The doubled one is a hormone so it will be a couple of weeks. There is a side effect in that I will have more hair..so more waxing or I shall become something of a novelty for small boys to wonder at:eek: There is no such thing as a free ride with medication.

    OH is home all next week, then plans so far... Barcelona for a couple of days the week following and Moscow later in July. I was going to go to Moscow with him but for my health reasons that probably is a bit limited.

    On the plus side, though, you might end up with gorgeous eyelashes and thick, glossy head hair? Here's hoping!

    Have you been to Moscow before? It's a fascinating city, perhaps if you're on the mend by then you can enjoy it.
    Generali wrote: »
    They'd rename Downing Street after me (because if they didn't I'd have them thrown in gaol).

    IIRC, George Downing (after whom a Cambridge College is also named) was a complete rogue himself, so naming the political road after him was a stroke of genius. He was around at the time of the Commonwealth and Restoration, and changed sides and betrayed friends with a rare ability.

    hjd wrote: »
    Without wishing to cause offence I think Downing Street sounds better than Generali Street .. more British..

    The "south American junta" sound would suit Gen's style of government, though, I reckon.

    Spirit wrote: »
    DD was offered an internship ...and home..by this family..she declined:mad:

    One day she may just regret that decision.

    Barking! Why did she turn it down?
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    No idea on lift cost. Dh and I looked at some where to buy with a lift. Was a one bedroom cottage, very tiny. Person who built it was not disabled, just lazy. Knew the person and was also put off by the filth ( surmountable) something else surmountable but expensively so, and one other thing we decided was too much of a gamble. The location was gorgeous though.
  • Generali
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    IIRC, George Downing (after whom a Cambridge College is also named) was a complete rogue himself, so naming the political road after him was a stroke of genius. He was around at the time of the Commonwealth and Restoration, and changed sides and betrayed friends with a rare ability.

    As Winston Churchill said, "Anyone can be a rat but it takes a rare skill to re-rat" (I paraphrase).
    The "south American junta" sound would suit Gen's style of government, though, I reckon.

    I can't remember the name of the fairly recently deceased US Senator who was asked what they should do about a miners strike. His response was to draft them into the army and order them to work. Then have any strikers shot for insubordination.

    Firm but fair. That's my motto.

    They Anglicise words on the news still over here so 'junta' is spoken as spelt in English. Drives me barmy. I love the word hhhhooontah, said with a real flourish. Now I come to think of it, perhaps Generali should have that same rolling h/j noise at the start of it.
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